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Fair enough. Did it sound like they were speculating from what they had seen rather than telling you factually? It does seem like it would be a big revelation and that only a few people would be privy to it.

 

Sorry @Yoda 2, I wasn't referring to your revelation specifically about Rey being Luke's daughter. That is definitely still within the realm of the officially unknown. I was referring to the general idea that at least one character in this movie is the child of either Luke or Leia. In my opinion that more general issue became a closed case the moment teaser 2 was released.

 

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Pretending for one post here that Rey is Luke's daughter.

Ending the movie on the note of the reunion of Luke and his daughter shouldn't need the involvement of passing on a lightsaber. Also, her uncle just died and the audience is PISSED OFF, that conclusion doesn't gel with what just happened. "Oh, Han just died. Awh well, f*** him, look at Luke and his lost kid."

To me, a better ending is Han dies (like Shmi, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon), Rey finds Luke and becomes his Jedi apprentice to avenge his death or at least begin to fight back.

Also sibling vs. sibling > cousin vs. cousin for most people I would think.

 

Sorry. I understand now.

 

Interesting this gets more intriguing by the day. Not sure I like the idea of Luke having kids but lets see. He still may not have for that matter but am willing to be surprised.

 

If Luke is going to have a child, then it is most likely to be a male. if he has a child and it is not a male then the Skywalker story effectively ends. I know females carry DNA and bloodlines etc.. In fact most of my own families most interesting stories are carried through the female. The problem is that it is much harder to trace the female family tree because of name changes etc... Having worked quite extensively on my own family tree this is simply the truth. Also, there is one way out of the box so to speak, how to carry on the Skywalker name without Luke having children. That is the female bears a child without being married. In this case it would have to be that

1. Leia and someone, most likely Han, have a child without getting married and then split up. Leia gives the child the name Skywalker as that would be her technical name, but it is a name she has never used. This in my own tree is normally done to protect the ID of the father, so it would only be done if she had a child after her and Han split up.
2. Rey, assuming she is Luke's kid, has a child but does not get married. My own family name that I carry is carried to me in this way. Daughter has child out of wedlock, gives child here maiden name.

 

My father was one of two boys, he had 3 girls, how do you work that one out?

 

This reminds me of the epic story of Punky Brewster. In case you don't remember her tale, here's a synopsis of her character: Punky Brewster is a child who has been abandoned by her parents. Taken in by crusty Chicago photographer Henry Warnimont, Punky and her dog, Brandon, teach Henry how to lighten up. Cherie and Allen are two of Punky's friends.

Now...just substitute a few words and you have an accurate description of TFA's main character: REY is a child who has been abandoned by her parents. Taken in by crusty JEDI KNIGHT LUKE SKYWALKER, REY and her DROID, BB-8 teach LUKE how to lighten up. FINN and POE are two of REY'S friends.

 

I can't imagine anyone thinking it would be a good idea to continue the Star Wars numbered saga without continuing the story of the Skywalkers. It's never really been a question of if - just who. Since Rey appears to be the main character she was always the obvious choice, and the signs have pointed to that being the case as the movie has drawn closer. Kylo's lineage is less certain, but two Skywalkers makes more sense than one from a narrative standpoint. It would be interesting to see a redemptive arc that didn't arrive at the very end of a trilogy via one semi-heroic act.

But I don't think the actual last names of the characters really matter - it's the bloodline. Whether their last names are Skywalker, Solo or anything else, if they are descendants of Anakin, then they are Skywalkers.

 

About freaking time Kennedy! I know this seemed obvious but it also seems at times maybe they were veering the story in another path. As we have said, Star Wars is about the Skywalkers. period. I have read others saying that if Luke was talking to a family member in the teaser, then he would have said "the Force is strong in OUR family", so I'm glad to know we will see Generation 3 of Skywalkers.

 

I was speaking of carrying on the Skywalker name. Clearly first you said that your father was one of 2 boys, so there is another boy, did that boy have a son? Its not that boys are more important than girls, its just that in our culture the boys carry the family name barring strange circumstances like I mentioned. They exist in almost every family tree.

It is never clear to me how Amidala received the last name Amidala. You bring up a valid point though that different customs may apply to different cultures. We also don't know if Amidala was really her last name or not. In fact until the prequel's which are cannon it was unclear whether people "got married" in star wars. The only couple in the OT that even looks married in Owen and Beru. The only "couple" in the PT is Amidala and Anakin. A novel that somehow went into how this cultural stuff works would be a nice thing, not sure how that story would work unless you write a novel perhaps set several generations after the current Skywalkers and you have an orphan trying to piece together his family history.

 

I hope not.

The Force is everywhere not only in the Skywalker Family.

 

Until recently my vfx guy had only seen somewhere around 1/6 to 1/4 of the movie. He says that he has seen a lot more now though.

 

True, but as a story it focuses on Skywalker. The other spin offs will focus on other characters and heros.

 

and has he said anything about his visual ecstasies?!

 

As I put in the comments section of the article posted on the main page, Rey doesn't have to be Luke's daughter to continue the Skywalker bloodline. Anakin's blood runs as much in Leia as it does Luke.

 

Here is some discussion on them. It was a second draft of the script so it makes sense that a decent amount would have changed, but the evolution between that script and the story we have now is not difficult at all to imagine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLe...n_thinks_the_mizzlewump_rumors_are_partially/

 

I agree with the posters above who have said there has never been a question whether the saga will continue with the descendants of Anakin in the Skywalker family tree. It was strongly suggested in teaser 2 and KK and JJ have specifically told us so since then. The only question is which branch of the family tree do our new heroes (and/or villains) hang from.

I tend to agree that the more compelling story would involve sibling conflict, rather than cousins at odds with each other. But it can work both ways.

@remiel6, I appreciate your thoughts on genealogy, but keep in mind that tracing the family line is really only important if you are going back multiple, multiple generations. Here, the genealogy really only matters as it relates the the Force, so we are really only at generation number three. Not too hard to trace. Besides, tracing the family line and calling them Skywalkers is also only important to us, the audience. To the characters themselves it is less important... especially when it doesn't have to go back any further than Anakin. But even if, for instance, Leia wants to trace her mother's family line, I'm sure that royal bloodline history is preserved.