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I'am sure that Skywalker line will continue, and I hope with Rey.
Rey ( or Kira ) Skywalker.

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I actually expect that Rey will keep her Skywalker name and pass it to her childrens. Skywalker name needs to survive.

 

No I get your point, I just disagree with it. Conventionally speaking, in your culture, a maternal surname may be forgotten several generations down the line. That's why I said, if (and that is a HUGE if) the Star Wars culture (there are multiple Star Wars cultures, mind you) follows a patrilineal pattern, the Skywalker surname may in fact "die" if only Leia has offspring (and there are no other hidden, secret "Skywalkers"). But the Skywalker family continues to live on through Leia's children. Quite frankly, your theory here has been a bit of an evolution of ideas. You previously stated,

The saga does not need to have the Skywalker surname in order to continue. It may be your preference, but it is not required. And there is nothing stopping any character as identifying, by name, as a Skywalker. Unless you have some inner working knowledge of Imperial, First Order, and Republic laws on surname use?

Whoa, is this a break-through?

 

They would be Soio familly not Skywalker in that case. Skywalker familly would indeed extinct.
Like it or not, familly name, last name IS indeed important.

You can not refer to some familly as Skywalker familly if they do not bear that name for several generations.

KK said Skywalker familly, so that definitely means that we will indeed get at least one more Skywalker.

 

Nope, that was always my preference. But like i said before you keep missing my point.

I said multiple times that I'am not against female line surname passing.

 

Crazy thought. What if there are other Skywalkers out there that aren't force sensitive (like how not every Bonaparte was THE Bonaparte) and the force decides "Hey I want new Skywalkers but not the ones I currently have. Let's make another Anakin" and pulls another "He/she doesn't have a father" bit. It'd be contrived and silly, especially after Anakin's story, but if it's been done once it can do it again.

 

Did your source seem confident though? Or was it just him speculating based on info he has?

 

Technically we have female line surname passing in TMP.
Anakin father is Force, his mother was Shmi Skywalker.

Anakin got his familly name not from his father, but from his mother. So that means that Shmi had Skywalker parents. Maybe Skywalker sibilings.

So technically other non force sensitive Skywalkers maybe exist.

 

Fan logic aside...

Disney is making this movie for a general audience while paying respect to the "fans".

KK says it is about the Skywalker family.

My guess is that we will get a new "official" Skywalker at the close of act I or opening of act II. My bet: Rey.

Disney needs/wants this for advertising.

The twist (I am your father) will likely come in Ep VIII. We may then find out that it is actually Rey Solo and Kylo Skywalker and that the internal conflict faced by Anakin between Dark and Light, and Luke to a lesser extent because he had Vader as the dark and overcame his own failure in the cave, will be externalized into two separate characters of the same generation.

Like in ROTJ, the good will ultimately win, but at great personal expense.

 

Same question for me, would be nice to have more info than she's Lukes, even if small.

 

And just when I thought we were getting somewhere... I am not missing your point, as it has continued to evolve, I just disagree. You have stated certain things as fact, I have provided evidence contradicting those statements. Someone who disagrees with you and provides contrary evidence does not just "miss" your points... I happen to believe you are wrong, both from a genetic/biological standpoint and a social science standpoint.

See? It is entirely conceivable that the Skywalker name can continue on regardless of whether Luke has offspring or not! But it is of no matter... that is why I have tried to push the conversation back on the topic of how the Skywalker family will continue in the ST, and perhaps beyond. Whether the Skywalker surname continues to be used or not (I would like to see it) remains to be seen.

 

Actually nothing contradicts there.
Please what exactly contradicts there in your opinion, because I do not see anything contradictory there in my statemens.

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Problem in Leia is not because she is a woman, but because she is not Skywalker by familly name, by her surname.
She is Organa by her familly name.
She can not pass Skywalker familly name to her childrens if she do not have Skywalker surname.

Luke is only one who bears Skywalker surname ( as we know right now ), so only he can pass Skywalker last name to his childrens.

So yes you keep missing my point and it seems you do not even read my comments.

 

Likewise, I'm sure. I have spelled out exactly where you have stated something as fact and I have provided evidence indicating it is false. This is no longer a productive discussion. Have a great day!

EDIT: Just because you keep repeating yourself does not make what you say any more factual than it is. I specifically acknowledged your point that if Leia follows patrilineal surname practice naming her children Solo (assuming they are with Han) or uses her adopted name Organa for her offspring, and Luke has no children, the "Skywalker" surname would "die." But the Skywalker family would not. That is where we disagree and I think you are wrong. I thought we had progressed on this latter point, but perhaps not. I'll just allow the ratings to speak for me at this point.

 

Actualy you did not. You keep ignoring what I said.

So I will spell it one more time:

1. I'am not against female line family name passing. I do not care if childrens got their last name from mother or father.
2. I care for Familly name. Familly name makes certain named Familly. Skywalkers are induviduals who bear Skywalker last name.
3. Luke bears Skywalker surname
4. Leia never took Skywalker surname, her surname is Organa
5. Only Luke can pass his family name Skywalker to his childrens because he bears that name.
6. Leia childrens would bear Organa or Solo surname. So she would not pass Skywalker familly name to her childrens.
7. That is why Skywalker family name can continue only via Luke.

And I want ( and I think most people do ) a new Skywalker in future movies, because Skywalker surname is important part of this saga. And iconic surname.

And I think that you are wrong.
There is no Skywalker family if no one bears Skywalker family name.

In that case you have Solo or Organa family that is relative to Skywalkers.

 

You actually prove my point. it was important enough to your mother and father to give you the last name that you have. My Wife is in the same situation. I asked her if we had another boy if she wanted him to have her maiden name to carry on the family name and she said no. however, a choice was made because it was important.

The reason I mention this is that although yes I am technically related to James 1 king of Scotland and England, I do not bear the Stuart? last name how the hell would I ever know I was related without bearing the last name. I would have to do what I did and spend years dissecting family trees to find a connection.

Someone with the last name Stuart however, who knew their ancestors were from Scotland might have an easier time researching and feel a deeper connections. Technically it's just a name.

As for any brothers and sisters of Shimi Skywalker. This is a very interesting point however thus far the story gives us none of those details. There is nothing in my mind stopping Leia and Han from giving their child the Skywalker name. this would be cool especially if they have two boys one named Solo and One named Skywalker. It would be an interesting potential tension between them.

 

I am convinced that, at the very least, Rey is Leia's daughter. Whether or not she is Han's, I don't know, but the signs are pointing to her definitely being Leia's daughter.

Thematically, it makes sense for Luke to be the last of the Skywalkers. A name like Skywalker befits a character that is on the level of an epic legend or mythological deity, and the story of Luke and Anakin/Vader reminisces of such a tale. The name itself suggests level of power and greatness that is unrivaled. Where Anakin failed, Luke succeeded and henceforth became THE Skywalker.

If the leadup stories are to be believed, Luke seems to have dedicated himself to his Jedi calling by going to Devaron alone and apparently starting a Jedi temple. He seems like he has taken Yoda's words to heart about having the most serious mind, and I doubt this has led to any gos at a lady. (And I mean, the first girl he had the hots for was his sister, as we know, so if I might interpret that as the Force telling me that I should stick to learning more about it and practicing my lightsaber dueling.) Furthermore, with his absence for sometime, it seems like his name has become such a legend, so it points to Luke being set up as the one true legendary Skywalker, who becomes the great heroic and something of a spiritual figure to the Jedi.

Furthermore, in the famous Luke monologue from Jedi at the beginng of the TFA trailer, we should really read more into that than just that there is yet another Skywalker. The opening ends, of course, with the line, "You have that power, too." Who was this said to originally? Leia. Which line did it follow in the opening replay in the Trailer? "My sister has it." Rey, who has that power too, follows Luke's sister in the line of the First Family of the Force. As in, she follows Luke's sister directly in this line. As in, she is her daughter.

 

The Force is strong in your family, pass on what you have learned. That line would be more meaningful if we see Luke train his Force sensitive family member rather than his own kid.

 

Personally I want Rey to

Even if theres nothing stopping Leia from giving her children the skywalker last name, I doubt she would be inclined to. It was Luke who was able to see the good in their father, not her. The only expierences shes had with vader was being tortured by the mind probe by him, having him force her to watch as the death star blew up her home planet, and having him put her boyfriend in carbon freeze. Can anyone say Daddy issues please? Clearly in return of the jedi she is upset by the news that vader is her father after luke tells her. I don't think that she really considers Vader/Anakin her father in the way that luke does, after all she had Bail to fill the role of father growing up. Its probably something she put behind her and tried to forget about. So im not really sure why they would have their childrens last name be Skywalker.

 

Anakin is protagonist of PT
His son Luke is protagonist of OT
Luke daughter Rey protagonist of ST to me sound the most logical.

Leia was part of the big 3. But she was not the main hero, protagonist of the story.
Luke was main main character of OT.

in my opinion every saga trilogy will always have a Skywalker as main protagonist.

 

Rey Solo.

The fact that Yoda considers Leia a Skywalker is good enough for me.

Luke will not have a kid (I hope).
1- Jedi are supposed to spurn attachment.
2- Luke has a mission it should be his sole focus
3- Starting a story with the idea that Luke met some girl 20 some years ago that was so awesome that he decided to break jedi tradition is just too good a story to not tell. The timing for such a story is long over. It would be one of if not the most important event in the Saga but we skip it.