The Rian Johnson Thread

Unless some knows the __________theorem they will not understand TLJ's a, b and c.

 

From the very beginning when Luke tosses the lightsaber over his shoulder, it's clear that Rian Johnson doesn't care what the fans think. This movie drips of distaste for Star Wars fans & their theories. Who were Rey's parents? Who cares. Who was Snoke? Who cares. At some point in the movie, Luke has some line mockingly referring to lightsabers as "laser swords." I honestly don't know why this guy was picked to direct Star Wars when he's clearly more interested in "killing the past."

 

Do you actually not know that laser sword is a nod to George Lucas?

 

http://collider.com/the-last-jedi-luke-lightsaber-scene-explained-rian-johnson/
http://collider.com/the-last-jedi-snoke-explained/
http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...rs-last-jedi-spoilers-20171218-htmlstory.html
If I may add something from myself, Luke's greatest victory was scored when he threw his lightsaber away, so there's also that.

 

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People talk about RJ's Luke being the correct Luke and the correct exist from the Episodes.
I find that quite interesting as the Luke we met on Ach-To goes against the values of the previous Luke we saw 40 odd years ago.
Let me explain.

Luke over the original trilogy prided himself in the protection of his friends and family. It was his reason for training in the first place, his primary goal was to protect them and walk into the clutches of darkness to turn his father back to the light. This was even to the point of self sacrifice.
Now we fast forward to TFA, we see a mentally scared and weathered old man. Our minds explode with wild theories of why our hero was forced to hide out here. Then we jump again to TLJ, that hero wasn't forced to hide, he chose to hide and give up because of his failures, a character we have never seen before....... So he saw the darkness rising in his young apprentice, so he has a moment of weakness and considers killing him in his sleep, as we saw this went all wrong. Luke is defeated, his temple destroyed and most of his students are dead.... His powerful apprentice is now on the loose, guided by Snoke and hell bent on revenge. Leia, Han, Chewie and all the resistance are still out there dealing with this issue sparked by him, so instead of helping and being that hero, he runs and hides and sooks..... haha. Common, even my girlfriend a novice Star Wars fan lent over to me and said "Why is Luke acting like this?". Then we see possible redemption with him appearing in the final thrusts of battle, but no he is still sitting and hiding on Ach-To and then he's just goooone. That's not how our childhood role hero would have approached that situation at all. Happy to discuss why people think I am wrong

 

Or Looper. Or Brick.

RJ is a damn good writer.

 

Or Brick.
Or Looper.

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Damn it. Hhaha

 

I mean, all this really shows is that Rian is an edgelord who doesn't even bother developing his own subversive choices enough to have any meaning or substance. I probably hate Star Wars fan theorizing as much as the he does but the fact of the matter remains is that while he did do something not many Star Wars directors have done, pretending as if that automatically makes it good is a reductive way of perceiving The Last Jedi.

 

To be fair, if Denis could just elimate Mary Poppins Leia and the entire Canto scene he’d be miles ahead of RJ on that alone!

I’m ok with Luke being “unhappy” in this movie, I just think RJ massively missed the mark on huge portions of the plot - the slow motion space chase, the “free the falthiers” nonsense, the (admittedly gorgeous) crystal foxes saving the day! - were all just terribly dumb plot points imo.

I think what J.J. and GE did with TFA and R1 were miles and miles ahead of what RJ did with this movie.

 

That doesnt matter at all. Michael Cimino made Thunderbolt and Lightfoot and Deer Hunter before he made terrible film named Heaven's gate, a film that basically ruined his career.

 

Yeah not really comparable....Cimino went off the deep end and quadrupled his budget on Heaven's Gate.
It was a trainwreck of a production that ruined his career. Not the movie.

Bad movies don't ruin directors. Spielberg came back from 1941.

Oh and Heaven's Gate is actually liked by many people now after rereleases and various edits, much like the original Blade Runner.

 

Is Singer a sexual predator? :-O

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Well, the point remains. A filmmaker with a good start can end up with crap. Maybe Colin Trevorrow is a better example.

 

Still not really. Trevorrow is still working.
@Pomojema is right. Trank is the comparison...but he was already booted off a star wars movie.
Rian Johnson has now made 3 Critically acclaimed movies and 2 of the best episodes of TV.
Will he make a bad movie? Probably. But this wasn't it.

 

It wouldn't surprise me based off of that.

 

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One of the things I keep hearing a lot is that this is a good film but a bad star wars film. I both agree and disagree with this. One of the things people need to realize before entering the theatre is that this is a fresh take on star wars. They just can't all have the same path. TFA was a great movie and one of the reasons I loved it so much is because it followed a classic star wars plot line. This movie was much tougher to create because of its predecessor's success. Rian Johnson took a different path that was very rewarding at times, such as Rey being much more mature of a Jedi than Luke was in ESB, Yoda's cameo (pm me if you want to know why I liked it so much), and even Luke's death which I thought could have been better, but still an incredibly emotional and well shot scene. However, he definitely should have played a little more fan service by maybe taking more elements from ESB. Also, the Finn/Rose goose chase was very "un-starwarsy" I guess, was devoid of importance, didn't give Finn the development he deserved, and ended with wasting Captain Phasma for yet another movie. I believe this would have been an exponentially better movie had Rian Johnson taken some more time to connect the plots to each other, and focused less on just exciting scenes.
For those who are going to rant on how bad The Last Jedi was because you didn't get another movie modeled entirely after another, please open your mind a little.

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To Rian Johnson's style.

 

............wat?

 

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