The Rian Johnson Thread

Yeah he didn't do the dang script yet but I'm sure he havs a "treatment". Probably all loaded with a GL put it 2 the now fired Charlie Rose, "Gobilly Goock".

 

We would not get along in real life.

 

Is anyone really treating this team's words as something to be taken seriously? One min, they're all about the skywalker saga, then they're moving away from the skywalker saga, then each director is free to take the story in any direction they want, now its very close to GL's treatment. Remember when GL told us from the start that they decided not to go with his treatment?

I'll take his word on the matter as he's said one continuous thing. LFL has been flip flopping even before the film that was supposed to be an easy lay up, was driven off the rails and received a mixed reception to say the least.

 

They should make The Last Jedi a dream that Rey was having and make JJ's Episode 9 the real Episode 8.

 

finn's dream. He dreamed that his bae had force cyber with the guy that nearly killed him. This causes finn to wake up born again hard.

 

lol Yea i like that better. Make it Finn's dream. They can start Episode 9 with him waking up from the nightmare that was the story in The Last Jedi.

 

Pablo Hidalgo just deleted most of his twitter account. Looks like someone had a talk with him...

 

A quote from his Twitter page:

 

If I was in charge of LFL I would write Larry Kasden and JJ a blank check.. they could write any number the wanted and I would pay for them to smooth over that shameful RJ mess.

I watch 7 then 9 and pretend 8 never happened.

 

Upon knowing that Rian Johnson was directing Episode VIII (TLJ) I immediately expected only two things from this movie.

I expected it to be very dark and extremely visceral.

That's honestly what I needed it to be as the second chapter of the sequel trilogy.

After seeing it multiple times and really thinking about it.. that's exactly what I got.

Snizzoke was chopped in half much more violently than Darth Maul. It was both more shocking and intense.

That was the first time on screen we've ever seen an apprentice rightfully defeat and take his masters place, the 'Rule Of Two' in full effect. It was absolutely gorgeous.

I instantly thought of the Darth Plagueis novel from the Legends Universe.

As for the whole visceral aspect.. it is by far the most visceral movie in the entire franchise. The Last Jedi has made me think and feel more than any other Star Wars film. Not only is it a story of great emotional depth for the characters themselves, it is also the most emotion-invoking movie for the fandom as well.

Just look at what the reaction to TLJ has been.. negative or positive, it has made many fans very.. emotional.

Which in my opinion is awesome.

It's exciting to see so many Star Wars fans fall to the Darkside of their emotional spectrum over this movie.

Fear of the movie not being what they wanted.

Anger that the movie was not what they wanted.

Hate for the movie they did get.

Suffering over the fact that they will never get the movie they want. Ever.

It's just like Star Wars.. only in real-life! Super fun times.

What's even more interesting is how Rian Johnson's decisions for the story had the same affect that Luke Skywalker's decisions had within the story.

They both caused people to fall to the Darkside.

In Luke's case it was Ben Solo and in Rian's case.. it's all the fans who hate the movie, which has resulted in a bunch of angry Kylo Ren's within the Star Wars fan community.

"Life imitates art."

With that being said.. I am very much looking forward to seeing what Rian Johnson does with his own SW trilogy when he has even more freedom to experiment outside of an already pre-existing story line within the universe.

My hope is that it focuses on the Darkside users of The Force.

Regardless, now that it is all finally said and done.. I still think Rian Johnson was the right choice of director.



"Ride the Tide"

-SOAS

 

Rian has created a great movie, he deserves a lot of applause. but it is a pity that so many people lose their hands in the world of Star Wars...

 

Imo this film has a lot to think of for a lot of (not that) young and middleaged men with an "oldstyle picture" of the rolemodels of women and men.

The women leads in tlj make, most of the time - stronger and better decisions (Holdo, Rey, Leia) than the outraging or selfish or frustrated or depressed or corrupt too much self confident or arrogant men like Poe, Finn, Luke, Snoke, Ren and Hux. They get some lessons and some scratches; not a good time for mens ego.

The reactions to the film show that there is still much to do along the way to real equalness in the mindsets of our society.

Why do I come up with this cliche?

Yesterday I was sitting in theatre next to a group of young men and I don't want to repeat here what they have said about Rey, Holdo, Leia and Co.
Weak men.

 

Dunno if anyone posted this yet, but its telling to see RJ demonstrate his lack of understanding when it comes to characterizations and context. He is the very last question in the video.

http://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi/production

To compare a character intro'd on the ground floor with a character intro'd in the 7th film in the saga is a cut and dry example of not understanding your own profession.

 

LOL. Even if they did that, more people than ever would probably be very upset.

 

I know that he's been getting a lot of flak for some of the choices that he made, but I had zero problems with the direction they took Luke and Snoke. I think the movie's biggest problem was that it was extremely slow for far too long and some characters were just bad.

 

I just watched this whole thing. Rian's comments about some of his decisions are head scratching. He didn't want Luke to be a coward who ran away so instead he wrote him as wanting to take the Jedi out of the fight and that's the most difficult thing for his character... ? Is that not almost the same as running away? Also, if that's the reasoning then it's very poor writing to have him flip flop at the end and put himself back in the fight... sorta

Also the Snoke thing. Rian tries to compare it to the Emporer saying we didn't know the Emporer's background. That's a classic "What about this?" argument that doesn't even hold up. We knew we were going to get a background for him since we saw episodes 4 - 6 and rightly assumed there would be a 1 - 3. The other thing I don't like about Rian's answer on this is that he says if he stopped the scene for 30 seconds so Snoke can give a monologue it would have ruined the scene. Come on man, there's plenty of other ways to discover a background without the character giving a monologue. Terrible lack of creativity here. He could have just had Luke give Rey some context about Snoke when they're on the island, since Luke was around for Snoke's rise. Or have Leia explain something.

 

Agreed.

 

I do have a problem with it, and glad he's getting flak ( within reason of coarse, nothing threatening, that's just weird )

He, and any other modern SW writer has literally 30 years of endless content some great, some poor for sure. But limitless cool ideas to tinker with.

What do we get, 2 hours of failure rammed down our neck. I get it to an extent. I feel he went to far.

 

http://www.floor8.com/posts/6187-ri...nge-leia-s-parts-in-the-last-jedi?a_aid=42571