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VISUAL DICTIONARY HAS LEAKED!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lord Skywalker, Dec 7, 2017.

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Do you think this is the making of a good film

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  2. No

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  1. TheGreyandTheRed

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    Unless that's not a collar and its hair, it almost looks a bit like Gary oldmans Dracula.

    Snoke has been rumoured to be able to drain the force. Could be a bit of a 'hat tip'
     
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    mosaic.png
    This is what I see. A large disk behind a small, seated figure wrapped in a cloak, with long pointy ears.
    Yoda-esque, but looks more fox like to me.

    *EDIT* I played around with levels a bit.
    mosiac filtered.png
     
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    Actually it looks a lot like Snoke more than the inquisitor.
     
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    We need a higher quality image to surface.
     
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    IMG_1103.JPG mosiac filtered.png If you look at the whole mosaic as a face, with where the eyes are, the shape of the nose, this is what I'm seeing...
     
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    I see that too and it makes some sense for some quotes : It's time for the jedi to end. If Snoke is the prime jedi, that could explain why the title is plural in many languages.
     
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  7. Lord Skywalker

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    I think it's safe to say at this point, that TLJ will NOT be ESB 2.0
     
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    You know I love crazy theories but I try not to get blind.
    So truth to be told - about Poe and Rey non meeting - it could be everything. I just think it may be something they are using in TLJ for more than a scene. It may be important for a subplot. And it could be everything.
    About the character Poe (thinking about the ring etc.. too) beside the VD there's another thing we know from few weeks now. That is that TLJ script was 90% done a month after JJ finished to film TFA. That means not only that the final cut of TFA took into account TLJ script, but almost everything that came out in novels and comics even before TFA came out.
    That's sure in regards of Before the Awekening and Shattared Empire (given what the author - who is the same - said) and those are the sources for Poe's backstory and that of his parents (Force tree included). Meaning that... It doesn't matter he was supposed to die untill march 2014. Everything we know about him was presented us knowing about TFA and TLJ. 2/3 of his arc in the trilogy.
    That's true for the rest of the characters as well.
    So I cannot say what's coming for him but sure I'm more confident than I was before that there could be more that we generally think. Something that as you may know I always suspected, mainly because of things that caught my attention in other canon sources. Knowing that 2/3 of his arc was already decided when we first meet the character... strengthens that idea.
     
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    That or it could be a more normal size head with a halo
    In many religions, deities are represented with a sphere for a halo

     
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    All I know for sure is if this isn't AS in make up then they have done some pretty awesome CGI
     
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    Are you looking at this image with a cell phone? Because on my iMac it looks nothing like Snokes face. Why would Snoke look the same as the Prime Jedi from thousands of years ago?
     
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    On the Luke Skywalker: The Last Jedi page is an image simply called Ligtning Rod. Seems like an odd item to point out. He already has a shillelagh/wooden walking stick so maybe this is what Luke uses as a weapon to spar with Rey.
    staff.jpg
    My pet theory is, wouldn't it be cool if it was actually a piece of what Luke hung from on the bottom of Cloud City in ESB that maybe fell into the Falcon and he kept? I may be reaching here...just a bit :p
     
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    You mean the weather vain? I think that's what it was, but that would be funny and cool if he did.
     
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    The supposed somewhat reliable reddit leaker talks about items being embued with the force power of force users, and items held specifically by the chosen one seem to be even more mythic and powerful than ever.

    Hmmm, so Luke's saber was held by Anakin, and Luke.. so Anakin's and Luke's power may have passed onto Rey when she touched the saber.

    Mark Hamill also spoiled a line from Snoke in the movie... it is in an interview..q

    "The sword of Skywalker is too powerful"

    This is it guys! Luke's saber is embued with the power of the chosen one (Anakin), and his son..and now Rey weilds it! Thats it. The force back happens, and she has all this power now. Wow. This is it!! Good reasoning if she isn't related. But I'd wager a hefty amount this is how it goes down. Truth is out there !
     
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    Well, that really may be the big question, why indeed? It could turn out to be a false lead and be nothing, or, it could be something huge. We'll see if there's any clarification of this in a few days...
     
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    It looks like a rabbit with a filthy ball on the head.
     
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    What if it's not necessarily Snoke but someone else of Snoke's species? Could it be possible that the "Prime Jedi" were all one species?
     
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    Good post.

    It's hard for people like the above to feel comfortable posting such things in an environment where mediocrity such as the current sequel trilogy's direction is lauded and praised, so for someone to post something like it is commendable.

    The writing in TFA was horrendous at best and TLJ's treatment of Luke only points towards more of the same.

    Now that being said - and this is super super important to acknowledge - the story of those with ultimate power who give that power away is very very difficult to write for even the very best of writers, since they have almost certainly never been in that position in their lives.

    Your average writer was never the jock who could get any girl and kick anyone's ass should he/she want to but also had a wonderful sense of humor and sensitivity and could make everyone laugh and was also kind and just and wise.

    Hence their writing of 'heroes' ultimately falls back into the ideals of physical triumph and overcoming and vanquishing etc, rhetoric about defeating external foes.

    These writers don't know how it feels to be that person, loved and respected and also feared by all, who feels guilt and uncertainty and about their power and influence and all the praise they receive when in their minds they're no better or worse than anyone else. When you're that person who everyone's kissing up to and wants to be with, etc, but you're also intelligent and sensitive, the pressure is immense to do the 'right' thing, whilst you also have to deal with desire. You still want things, just like everyone else.

    One of the areas where the PT failed was fully exploring that side of Anakin: what do you do with all that power, how do you deal with that internal conflict given your human influences tossed into your otherworldly ability? (Quick example: maybe a bit where some senator tries to bribe Anakin to come settle some issue on his planet - the council doesn't need to know - and Anakin brushes him off and Obi-Wan reminds him how the Jedi code protects them from such advances and is designed to keep their power in check and Anakin begrudgingly admits it and this contributes to his ongoing inner conflict about Senate vs. Jedi.)

    At the same time, where the PT is vastly superior to this ST is that Lucas was at least aware of this and was trying to flesh it out: Anakin's 'debates' with Padme regarding power, etc. His succumbing to his fleshly desires both in revenge for his mother and physical consummation of his relationship with Padme. Lucas just didn't do a good enough job of really making his downfall hit the audience in the feels. He had a lot of the beats, just didn't connect them well.

    The eastern philosophies which emphasize the inward conquering of conflict over the external domination of others are what is what influenced the story of the OT. The PT brought in the other end of the argument, with western philosophies of individual influence and external domination and continued that discussion.

    TFA and the now TLJ's apparent marginalization of Luke is a very very unfortunate and clear regression away from that discussion and back towards 'oh okay in the end "good" just defeats "evil" once again rinse and repeat' stories without any real understanding or advancement.

    It's why TFA reaction has a breakdown of around 70/30 liked it/something was off about it. About 30 percent of people realize: 'Hey, there's actually not much more going on here than transformersy bantha poodoo find the power within and beat the bad dude yay.'

    Now, with all that out of the way, the proper place to take the Luke story is to have him be the opposite of his father. He's the Force incarnate: Godly ability, but absolutely refuses to use it, ever. Never ever ever. Not even to do 'good'.

    This is not personal preference, it is literally, literarily, the only place to take the character before you can then move forward having covered all bases. If you have him cowed, or dispirited or anything of the sort, you're still perpetuating the external values - he was physically defeated hence his character change.

    This talk about Luke having 'cut himself off from the Force' could go either way, and we'll find out in a few days how they've written the character, but all signs point in a bad direction.
     
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    Wouldn't Snoke know there is a mosaic of him on Ahch-To?
     
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    I'm curious how that mosaic will look in the movie – my guess is that this blured image from the VD is completely misleading.
     
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