What are the odds that Rian Johnson's trilogy gets cancelled?

I don’t think the trilogy will get canceled but I don’t see Rian Johnson directing any of them.

 

I dont think they are going to CANX the RJ trilogy. I mean they didnt want him to do EP. IX cause of the fact they wanted to go in another direction of SW and start a new saga. I think its how this new SW gonna reflect the original SW saga. force users, im sure we will see that. stories of Jedi? hopefully. Lightsabers? I wouldnt be surprise we dont get any but other weapons that use the kyber crystals or have them introduce the power of the crystals in the trilogies due to stories of the legends of it throughout the galaxies. I can see RJ set the the whole plot and have different directors within the trilogies.

 

This was a great topic for discussion. I appreciate the way you brought it up!

I think that Kathleen Kennedy is going to at least allow him to plan out a three movie arc along with write/direct the first movie as planned.

As for the remaining sequels, whether or not they get made is most likely going to be dependent on how well the first movie is received. Both critically and financially.

The Last Jedi was well received. Both critically and financially, as well as by the masses.

I believe in time it will become even more widely acclaimed within the core fan community than it is now.

KK is probably more than happy with RJ's work thus far.

He also seems like the type of director that she would get along with very well during the production process.

I would definitely not say the same about Josh Trank or Lord & Miller, which was probably a major reason behind them parting ways.

In the case of Colin Trevorrow, I believe it it was a combination of two different factors.

The first being that his movie 'The Book of Henry' was horribly received by critics and that really spooked Kathleen Kennedy.

The other reason being that which was given officially by Lucasfilm. Creative differences.

Specifically the death of Luke Skywalker at the end of TLJ.

Once that decision was made, the story Colin was writing for Episode IX became no longer possible. Instead of starting over based on a premise he did not agree with, it was mutually decided that him leaving the project was in everyone's best interest.


"Ride the Tide"

-SOAS

 

Nice thread, 2 scenes came up of whitch I banged my head on the sideboard and thought ahhhhhhhhhhhh, 1, that whole casino race track crap which if I didn’t know it had Lucas behind Rian daring him to beat the jar jar moment. 2, BB-8 driving the AT-ST out of the ship running, yeah I said running!!!! Absolutely terrible scene, one of the worst out there, so if there’s more to come from that, then please please give the next 3 to anyone but Rian, what the class of 77 remembers was not schmuky scenes ( let’s forget special “ what have I done “ moment when Georgie boy thought ,”you know what , I know what the fans want, Han standing on jabbas tail” ) but the fearsome way the characters where driven and the utter class of Star Wars and empire strikes back, I’m off now before I explode,

 

It won't get cancelled. I hope not.

Rian had and still has good intentions in the first place on the Star Wars movie he was going to make. Kathleen and Lucasfilm knows that as well. However, we all know how the movie was received. It was divisive.

I only need 2 things from Rian.

1) Listen and learn from criticism of fans. Take it as a lesson to do even greater things.

2) Repeat number 1.

Oh also, I want a really good Star Wars movie. Something, that adds value to our love for Star Wars. Something, that will totally blow our minds away, like how Star Wars did to millions in 1977.

 

Aw it's alright then!

Then, just make a great Star Wars trilogy that makes the universe richer, even without the presence of the Skywalker's. I can see it taking place in the future and the legacy of the Skywalker, the Rebellion and the Resistance lives on. Depending on how far in the future, we could actually see Rey, Finn and Poe coming back as cameos in the last film.

 

I'm not sure there's been a consensus criticism of the film he could learn from. The film is a little long, but that's likely a product of all the lose ends that TFA introduced.

I watched the Harry Potter series for the first time the past week. I've never read the book. The series is okay. It seems like reading the book erases a lot of the issues, but I was struck at how much of what happens has to be explained at the end. Almost every one of those films ends with someone explaining what happened. It's very poor storytelling.

 

How about don't write another slow speed, fuel saving, spaceship chase that takes course over 2 hours?

Or - don't include political propaganda in story telling?

Or - don't include long sub plots that have no effect on the story?

Or - don't force any romance, build it, make it organic?

And - leave Mary Poppins out of Star Wars?

People don't agree on those?

 

Huh?

Such as?

There was a forced romance?

I don't think there's a plan for Mary Poppins/Star Wars crossover so no issue there.

 

I know you know where all these are.

 

RJ’s story began and ended with Luke’s situation. Rey’s scenes with luke could only take place over a few days max. Otherwise they wouldn’t have worked. Luke would’ve been persuaded to return with Rey had they allowed that to play out over months - which wouldn’t work. And at the same this meant that the rebels had to be in a perilous position where they couldn’t just hide out and where they needed Luke to rescue them later. It was all set up for Luke’s arc whilst allowing reys journey to play out. Take one of these blocks away and the whole story falls down. So they had to be pursued and this way was as good as any.

 

What a story telling genius! But I didn't say don't do that in TLJ, I just said don't do it again...

 

I don't think this person is interested in basic story structure. I mean if your response to the film is "oh no, the political propaganda!" then I don't think discussing story choices is going to be a valuable exercise.

 

Yeah I hate basic story structure. I love how Rey goes from thinking Luke was a myth to becoming the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy with basically 0 training in.. 2 weeks? And that's being generous.

Now that's solid story structure!

 

No way will it be cancelled. RJ has got this.

 

well the last jedi ended as top movie in 2017 i dont think that the chances of his trilogy gets canceled are high

 

yeah, it did kinda feel like a Star Trek episode, the whole slow ship chase thing...

political propaganda? care to elaborate on this?

the only romance i noticed in the film was Rose and Finn. i guess her risking her life to save his at the end was pretty intense, not to mention the kiss, so i can see how it could be construed as forced.

yeah, the Leia scene was a bit much for me, but it works. it certainly is the cheesiest shot in all of Star Wars; i struggle to think of a visual moment more cringey than that. the Han/Jabba scene in ANH's SE was pretty awful, and so was Hayden returning as Anakin in RotJ's SE; i can't think of much else that's offensive off the top of my head.

i think people agree on some of these things, yeah. it's not a perfect Star Wars movie by any means, but i liked it. i'm looking forward to RJ making something that doesn't have all the OT connections and anchors. for example, something i've missed in the ST so far is new ships; i really dislike that they kept TIE's and x-wings and just changed the colors up. hopefully once RJ sinks his teeth into something new they can really start making some cool, unique stuff again.

 

Probably just more of my opinion, but I felt the way they handled some characters and parts of Canto Bight could be taken as pushing an agenda.

 

Every film has the political agenda. Funnily enough, my dissertation was titled:
America’s Fall to the Dark Side. It chronicled the great political changes of US politics through the juxtaposition of the PT! And this was 8 years before Trump!

Anyway, SW films have always been political. They’ve always had something to say about democracy, social justice, war etc. And they’ve been pertinent and spoken many things of the era they were made.