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What worries you?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by theborgv, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. Rieekan

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    yep and many loved that MF shot.
    http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/18/8447293/5-film-techniques-star-wars-trailer-jj-abrams
     
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    Bumping this thread back up. Here is a quick example of what I meant with this teal look being everywhere. Notice that I only did a very quick test to get rid of the teal filter, it's far from perfect.
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    While I prefer what you did with it (if that is indeed closer to what the shot actually looked like), something like a slightly less diverse color palette gives me 0 worries.
     
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    Maybe the diffrence comes from the shot itself, the BTS stuff is filmed with new 6K cameras and the whole scene starts with a slide from JJ Kasdan behind the camera to this scene.
     
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    Could be, yeah. One thing that I just realized is... why shoot the movie on film. If you are going to digitally color correct the hell out of it? At this point I'm thinking it's either the behind the scenes guy messing around with color filters. Or perhaps, I don't know they are just lighting the scenes to have this teal tint.
     
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    By the wy did we see in that shot the first Wipe of E7?
     
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    I hope that JJ will respect the old way of film making. so

    1) please not to much kungfu style fighting.
    2) please no slowmotion takes. like matrix ect.
    3) please don't "shake" the camera like in saving private ryan.
     
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    I have one major concern with this movie and I see a lot of people making light of it, however now that it appears Plagueis really is dead, how will the baddies be connected to the original Sith threat?

    How can you make a saga and then 2/3rd's of the way through just substitute the bad guys? It honestly makes no sense to me. That is why I was so married to the idea of Darth Plagueis in this movie. If they change the main threat to the galaxy now it will feel so disconnected from the original source material. The main threat is now some random (if rumors are true about him being part snake) half human half snake creature that apparently has some modicum of force training? Kylo is some young force adept who never received hardcore training like the Jedi's of old? How is this a threat so significant as to apparently make Luke go in to hiding? It doesn't seem believable from what we know as of right now. I honestly get the feeling we will be expected to just assume they are powerful because they look "scary" and cool, I just don't see that as being a credible threat to the man who stood up to the Emperor. That is why Plagueis made sense, he was the master of the master. Powerful enough to even fool Palp into thinking he was dead for decades while he very subtly manipulated events from so far behind the scenes so as not to even reveal his existence.

    Also don't even get me started about the rumors that a bunch of people just awoke to the force and are now able to wield it when they had previously not been able to before. If that is true that could ruin the movie for me. It is the equivalent to a bunch of kids who play paintball going up against a Navy Seal in combat. Luke would destroy them. The entire feasibility of the core of this movie is that there is a threat to severe and powerful that its: A) A threat to the galaxy B) Somehow connected to the existing Star Wars movies (I.E. Sith) and C) Powerful enough to be a legitimate threat to Luke. So far nothing I have seen rumored or announced officially meets any of these 3 criteria, and this worries me immensely. If I am watching this movie on December 18th and no bad guy exists who is an easily believable threat to Luke, the entire movie I will be thinking "why didn't Luke just kill this guy?" I don't care if they did something to his followers that made him feel sad. I just fundamentally won't believe Luke would sit out and let the galaxy go to crap while a threat he could easily stop came to power and caused more suffering in the galaxy.

    The worst thing about my concern though is that the more time that goes on without a clear understanding of the threat to the galaxy before the release of the movie, the more I am inclined to believe we will just be handed some vaguely menacing dark side user who we will be expected to believe is a threat to Luke "because evil mask and scar tissue".
     
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    No need for a proper working sith cult, maybe dark side users are all that is needed or some propper bad guys with superweapons and a nervous finger. Maybe that is something we can explore through 3 movies, where are the sith and maybe bring them back, no need to have it in movie one. Luke didn't start as a Jedi
    neither was Anikin a sith from day one on, so don't worry.
     
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    I don't have any answers about the villains, and I'm dying for clarification there too. But I, personally, don't mind that there's not an obvious Sith connection. If anything, that is more in continuity with the previous two trilogies, since the Sith were completely defeated and wiped out.

    It's a good point, though. We're not only going to have to understand the new villains on their own terms, but also in the context of the universe we already know and love. So easy to get it wrong.
     
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    kylo ren = wannabe sith ! hahaaa, that would be a nice plot-twist :)
     
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    Exactly and this is the problem, how can there be a threat that (if it isn't Sith) has only been around for a few decades and doesn't have the legacy of dark side training that the Sith did , and still be a threat to Luke? I just can't see a believable non-sith (dark side user) threat to Luke. He would wreck any non-sith dark side user. He stood up to the Emperor who fought and won against Yoda for force sakes!

    If Luke is scared by a bunch of non-sith dark side users how in the force did he stand up to the emperor 30 years prior? It makes no sense. There has to be a legitimate dark side threat to the universe or this movie will not work. Period.
     
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    We know nothing of those 30 years it's gonna be explained in the next months or in the movie, why judge now?
     
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    I am not saying it doesn't work I am saying it won't work. Seriously, I am honestly asking for someone to explain to me how Luke could possibly be afraid of some newb dark side user after everything Luke has been through and seen. He stood up to TWO real Sith lords at once, and now hes so scared of some generic dark side user he forsakes the galaxy and goes in to hiding after they kill his followers instead of seeking justice? This question HAS to be sufficiently answered or this movie will not work. Period.
     
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    Pretty sure they thought out something so blatantly obvious.
     
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    What have you seen that suggests this? I have seen nothing that does.
     
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    @Stillwatch, to me it looks like they are attempting to connect the new villains to the previous films through Vader. General audiences don't remember that Palpatine mentioned Plagueis, and it wouldn't serve as a very good bridge for any but the most committed Star Wars fans.

    In addition to however Vader's mask fits into the story, the First Order is strongly connected to the Empire (at least visually), and there's a very good chance that someone from the Skywalker bloodline will be sorely tempted by the Dark Side before it's all said and done. I don't think you need to worry about lack of connections. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Yea it would be nice if we some plot info. I don't think Luke is intimidated by a sith wannabe. Maybe Luke is doing his last jedi in the galaxy Obi Wan seclusion thing. The way Harrison was speaking so highly of the story, I'm sure there is a good damm reason fro Luke's "early retirement".
     
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    What worries me most about TFA ? Is it going to win 6 Oscars or only 5?
     
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    What have YOU seen that doesn't ?
     
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