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Which era would you like this new trilogy to be in?

Discussion in 'Rian Johnson's New Trilogy' started by PrincessLeiaCB3, Jan 24, 2018.

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Which era would you like this new trilogy to be at?

  1. Before the Prequel Trilogy (Old Republic times)

    80 vote(s)
    69.0%
  2. During the Prequel Trilogy

    14 vote(s)
    12.1%
  3. Between the Prequels and the Original Trilogy

    10 vote(s)
    8.6%
  4. During the Original Trilogy

    8 vote(s)
    6.9%
  5. Between the Original and the Sequel Trilogy

    24 vote(s)
    20.7%
  6. During the Sequel Trilogy

    5 vote(s)
    4.3%
  7. After the Sequel Trilogy

    37 vote(s)
    31.9%
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  1. Lord Phanatic

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    Yep. I really like Rey. She has a serious edge to her; how she screams at her opponents. Brave soul. Love it.
     
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    My thoughts are based on what I perceive has some hints from The Last Jedi. Lukes dialogue with Rey indicates he believes the Jedi strayed from the path. The discussion on arrogance and hubris. I also believe that the Prime Jedi in the temple is a hint of what he was thinking about.

    The Prime Jedi depicts an ancient Jedi, perhaps the first Jedi, meditating with a ying/yang image around him. Light and dark in balance. So I believe his trilogy is going to be at a time with the Jedi order is established and in balance. It is different at this time. No Sith exist and Jedi are willing to use dark force powers as well as light force powers. The original Jedi order were more grey. The trilogy will depict the split of the order into what the Jedi became and the Sith.

    You will have Jedi who believe that deep knowledge of the light side and complete rejection of dark side is the way to enlightenment and protecting the galaxy. You will have Sith who believe that deep knowledge of the dark side and complete rejection of the light side is the way to true power.

    Ultimately this will much further down the road lead into what we call the Jedi Sith war and the Old Republic time period.
     
  3. Use the Falchion

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    The era in which the Yavin IV temples were built! Super random, but we'd get some great jungle scenes.
     
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  4. Phil J

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    I get you. It would be interesting to explore how the characters and events are perceived by future generations and the notions of a series spanning hundreds of years in the present and the past certainly has some appeal.

    Even if Project Luminous is set in the High Republic era, there will be certain limitations such as that of cannot contradict any references that have been established in canon. One way of getting around this is that, as these events happened so long ago, there is no united consensus as to what went on. Just look at our own historians.

    It was only relatively recently that the Mayan snake king dynasties were discovered as was cultural and linguistic information about the Hittites as well as new information on their history that was not propaganda- I'm looking at you Rameses. Our understanding of history is always changing as new archaeological evidence challenges previously held beliefs and understandings.

    Having said this it is possible to work within such limitations, for example in Warhammer 40K, very little was known of the Horus Heresy until Black Library writers furnished this out in a set of novels (I believe there are over 50 so far) and Forge World did this in the form of miniatures and campaign books. Since the inception of this media, the universe of Warhammer 40K has been greatly enriched as a result with new lore constantly being added.

    That first Sith could be an analogue of Horus Lupercal or Lucifer from Paradise Lost, heralding an era of division and constant war when there had previously been the pursuit of a united galaxy. In Warhammer 40K, when the Emperor sought to reunite humanity under a single banner during his Great Crusade, though things were dark there was a sense of optimism for the future of humanity, something that could be replicated here.
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    Personally, I see the Jedi as being one among countless light side religions that may exist in the Star Wars universe. Myself I would want to explore those other less prestigious faiths from the force users who adhere to them and how they view each other. This would both give a new perspective on your much vaunted Jedi and would serve to add depth to the setting.

    Such religions may vary in their approaches:
    • Pacifism- self explanatory
    • Asceticism- the rejection of material possessions
    • Animism- all living things are imbued with the force and so each should be venerated from the tallest tree to the smallest blade of grass
    • Healing/medicine- as force-healing was established in TROS, it would be interesting to see an analogue of the orders of nuns that used to minister to the needs of patients at hospitals
    • Ancestor worship- self explanatory
     
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    Go way back at the Je'daii days. Finally show some common sense; good (Ashla), evil (Bogan), and balance (Bendu). Show, how both both Jedi and Sith got lost and forgot the balance, because they thought, as all priesthood, that they know better and can play bouncers at heaven's gate. Time for something radical.
     
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  6. Phil J

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    I remember from the KOTOR that there was this pretty old woman who saw the force as not some passive thing but something with a will that would force people into one destiny or another in a quest for a balance that it could not attain. She saw the force itself as a threat to freewill.
     
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    I guess you are referencing Kreia, and her plan to kill the Force. Her character is by far the most complicated one can find in Star Wars (I think), and in line with true rebellion and an anarchist's (in the good sense) approach to life.

    Indeed she saw the force as an oppressor, constantly meddling and leaving thousands dead, while it tries to balance itself. This can be tied to the well known and introductory to this way of thinking book: God and the State, where Bakunin states : Therefore, if God existed, only in one way could he serve human liberty - by ceasing to exist.

    In the Star Wars case, things are way simpler, since the existence of the Force, lifts the existential question, and it's relentless tyranny leaves no question whether it will cease to exist or not; it won't. It just spawns baby killers Chosen ones, to balance it's self out.

    It won't fly mate. Peps lost their mind when their shining hero Luke got depressed, and are still making videos at YouTube; imagine something hardcore as balance, or actually raising the question, of doubting the Force will.
     
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    Kind of depressing when you put it like that.

    I have listened to another interpretation in which the force is described to be like a drug in which there is no objective 'light side' (peace and life) or 'dark side' (entropy and death) but the two 'sides' lie in its usage and application. Essentially the 'dark side' users are described as addicts of power who are constantly in need of more and more and bring others into the maelstrom they create with 'light side' users acting as a countermeasure and cutting themselves off from emotion to prevent themselves from succumbing.

    For a basis of comparison, look into the lore of the Eldar from Warhammer 40K- after a destructive emotive event that led to the birth of their greatest nemesis, many Eldar elected to ascribe themselves Paths which they hope will mitigate the potential for them to succumb to the very impulses that damned them. While the Dark Eldar revel in their emotions, and like the Sith would do anything to unnaturally prolong their existences (Dark Eldar have nightmare surgeons called haemonculi) in order to avoid losing it.
     
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    Very interesting. Never heard of that take before, nor have any clue about the lore of Warhammer, so this was very useful. Well, the Jedi always seemed to me like hippies talking about love running around in robes, so the weed version does suit them, and the perspective you gave.

    I have to ask though, why did it seem depressing ?

    This version of the Force is much like the divine plan. It doesn't negate free will. I look into it as it being there and offering me existence, with all it's consequences and this (I think) what Kreia is all about. She actually wanted for everyone to be deafened to the Force, not practically kill it, because she understood, that much like the divine plan, if you kill it, then everyone will cease to exist.
     
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    It was depressing to me as with my understanding it negated free-will.

    Interesting. But if this divine plan is omnipotent and omnipresent how do you get around doing this? Is it just the space wizards that need to be deafened because they full those tugs at their consciousness more keenly, being as they are living nodes of the Force or is it everyone?

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    I can kind of understand the whole strength thing. The screaming though...
     
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    Its awesome and I love this.
     
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    As far as I understood, a new trilogy would be set before The Phantom Menace correct? From one side I am happy because we can see the old republic. On the other side, I would also like to see what happens after the fallen of the first order. A new new republic? I know some video games are set thousands year before TPM. To be honest it is too early, maybe would be better just 100 years more or less.
     
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    Nothing‘s been official on the movies yet. We just know that some stuff is set before TPM.
     
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    I would definitely want to see it set in the old republic. It would be nice to see the Jedi and sith at their prime.
     
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    'The High Republic' stuff is set 200 years prior TPM, but as @Jack_Forest already mentioned- the High Republic era has currently nothing to do with this trilogy.

    I voted for:
    'During the PT'
    'During the OT'
    'During the ST'

    'After the ST'

    I think 'after the ST' has the most potential. It's a clean paper. The questions are- how far after the ST? Should the ST characters be involved? It's a Rian trilogy, so I would say no to the second question. Rian works best with new characters.
     
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    Voted after the ST. I would rather see stuff in Star Wars that I don't already know what the final outcome will be.

    It's time...

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    I get this. But I do think, if you go back far enough--say thousands of years--there's still this sense of mystery. You could even explore force users BEFORE the Jedi/Sith. Or perhaps, as some comics have teased, at one point the Jedi were actually villainous.
     
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    I'm thinking they go way back, perhaps even further than the Old Republic and the Sith Wars. I think they'll want to let the ST sit as the end for a while before doing stuff set later. Besides, if they have even a fraction of an inkling of bringing back any of the ST heroes they likely won't want to be setting any future stuff in stone before then.
     
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    Of course, also because after the sequel trilogy I am afraid of another trilogy set after that.
     
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    I've said numerous times I wish they would leave the saga period alone, but suddenly my tune has changed. I'm not thrilled with how the trilogy ended, but it's canon and we move on. However, that trilogy ends in such a way that it opens a huge opportunity to start doing new stories with Rey/Finn/Poe. These could be stand alone stories and also stories that include 1 or 2 or 3 of them. It would also allow us to continue to see Chewie/R2/BB-8. Also, there's a baby Yoda out there somewhere.

    It's seems insane to throw away 40 years of backstory, but move forward with a smaller story to start.
     
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