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Why didn't Palpatine just stop zapping?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SegNerd, Jul 4, 2023.

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    In ROTS, it is ambiguous how vulnerable Palpatine actually is to his own lightning, and how much of it is part of the ruse - but the reason he keeps zapping anyway is obvious: Mace is about to slash him.

    In TROS, apparently he is vulnerable to his own lightning. But the difference is that no one was trying to strike him down. In fact, Rey had already concluded that she couldn't kill him with a lightsaber because apparently that would complete her transition to full Palpatine Mode. So when Rey reflected Palptaine's lightning back to kill him, why didn't Palpatine just stop zapping?

    The only possible explanation I can think of is that Palpatine was previously immune to his own lightning, and everything in ROTS was just for show. He only became vulnerable when he... died (?) and so he didn't expect the lightning to hurt him. But even then, you would think he would stop zapping as soon as he felt any pain.
     
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    Don't ask questions. About any of it.
     
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    For the same reason that the two Destroyers didn't realise they were on a collision course until after the Falcon dived out of the way of the one coming towards it in ESB.
     
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    All right, let's work this one out, solving for "Lightning Power" as "a"...

    ∣x+1−x2∣=2(2x2−1)∣cosα+sinα∣=2(2cos2α)
    ___________________________________ x 1 = cos2 (x) + sin2 (x) = (eix + e-ix )2 /4 + sin2 (x) = (e2ix + e-2ix )/4 + e2ln(sin(x)) + 1/2

    −cos(α−4π)=cos(2α)




    Anyway, after exhaustive research, my team has come to the following peer-reviewed conclusion:

    sometimes Palpatine is a dumb dumb
     
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    What a great thread!!

    Wanna watch nerds chase a dog's tail?

    Ask them how to CAPTURE & STORE lightning - specifically; ask if the problem is engineering or physics based.
     
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    He figured it out. Math & science pffft.
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    It's a metaphor. He was consumed and destroyed by his own hatred. We should all be rational enough to recognize our self-destructive tendencies and stop. But usually we're not.
     
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    Because he had to transition. Palpatine is not done yet, The Sith are in Rey or one or both of the light Sabers Rey buried.

    That is how Sith Force Ghost. They remain in the living Force either in an object or person.
     
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    To ruin y'alls childhoods, obvs.
     
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    Salt will flow when Palpatine returns again and I have a ton of Orville w/ extra butter on standby.​
     
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    Palpatine couldn’t stop himself when Yoda was getting the best of him inside the senate. It was just his good fortune that the Jedi Master was unable to maintain his footing on the platform.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 8, 2023, Original Post Date: Jul 8, 2023 ---
    I don’t think it’s in Rey. Like with Vader, the act of defeating Sidious took her life. A selfless act. Clearly not a suitable host for all the Sith.

    Perhaps the weapon, or weapons, are potentially a talisman that could help restore the Sith, somehow. Some way.
     
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    I'm taking that one with a boulder of salt big enough to force the Millennium Falcon into an evasive maneuver.
     
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    He didn't just stop because JJ and Chris Terrio wrote themselves into an (unnecessary) corner when they made up this "if you kill me, I take over your body" nonsense. So, Palpatine either had to kill himself, which is stupid because he's supposed to be the ultimate master of the dark side, or slip on a banana peel or something.

    Also, if you need Rey to kill you to take over her body, maybe don't tell her that's how it works. Maybe put up a believable fight and then let her "win". The whole "villain explains the entire plan to the hero" thing is pretty ridiculous.
     
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    Darth Sidious is a space cockroach with mad force powers and a god emperor mindset.

    As such, I'm not convinced that Vader's Master does NOT already reside inside Rey Palpatine Wannabe Skywalker.... because no one is ever really gone and stuff. And Mortis. And Darth Bane's flaming ghost. And....
     
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    Crazy. TROS trailer was my greatest expence of EP - 9. When I heard Palatine's laugh I just knew for certain they would write him as a discarnate spirit that would perhaps posses a younger body (younger clone) or even Rey herself. I also thought maybe his spirit could be in an object within the Death Star ruins or even the Death Star itself. Basically an essence transfer as a plot device.
     
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    Honestly, I do wonder if this will somehow come into play with Rey's movie.

    Not sure if I want that or not. Should Palpatine's story finally be put to rest, albeit in a fashion that many (including myself) were a bit underwhelmed by?

    Or should he be dug up one last time in a gambit that audiences might actually be forgiving enough to be won over again?
     
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    Man, I sure hope not.
     
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