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Why didn't Palpatine just stop zapping?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SegNerd, Jul 4, 2023.

  1. Lord of the Rens

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    The problem is this: Rey Wannabe Skywalker just defeated the dark side and there is no one worthy left to fight.

    Having her face some disgruntled corporate schmo with attachment issues? Meh. Been there, prequels.
    What about an emo antagonist, Vader cosplayer w/ family problems? Yep. Sequels crushed that.

    Some random pop-up villain is not going to fly.... because ST makes it clear that RWS is the most powerful force user alive.
    It's Papa Sheev or bust; no one else is a believable threat.
     
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    Ah yes, the two types of villains... businessmen and My Chemical Romance. There are no others. :rolleyes:
     
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    From what we have seen, this screenplay was originated via a writer's room with contributions from Damon Lindelof and Dave Filoni among others and now in the hands of Steven Knight, so surely something as ludicrous as Pappy rising yet again would have been filtered out by someone in the process. More likely, such a vastly talented team of writers would not need to use such devices because, oh, I don't know... they can create and develop a fresh idea. Fingers crossed.
     
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    He's basically dressed for the Black Parade, 100% emo.
     
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    Way to keep the fire burning there bro. I see what you did there.

    There are so many ideas out there for star wars villains that pose believable threats it ain't even funny. The EU and everyday fan art for one. Every great villain has a beginning.
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    But nooooo. Disney is scary as hell. Be that as it may I doubt they'll pull an ep 10 the return of palpatine.......again on us. IMO it would be cool if Rey and her students we're to take on another sect order of force users. Where they'd come from? Who the heck knows but it would be cool. Or more of a Vong / universal type of threat. My 2 cents.
     
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    With all the bad news about Indy 5, I just hope the new Jedi Order film is a win… I’ll watch Indy at home…
     
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    Indy 5 was pretty good, though.
     
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    Palpatine couldn't stop zapping himself when Vader oxtered him off his feet and hoist him into the air aboard the death star.
     
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    Sects of Force Users:
    Dagoyan Order
    The Knights of Ren
    Witches of Dathomir
    Force Priestesses
    Force Wielders of Mortis
    The Whills
    Order Aspectu
    Rakata Infinite Empire
    Aing Tii monks
    The Revanites
    Followers of Palawa
    Lost Tribe of the Sith
    Baron Do Sages
    The Fallanassi
    the Jensaari
    Sorcerers of Tund and Yacombe
    the Zakuul Knights
    the Legions of Lettow
    the Kwa
    the Sharu
    the Imperial Knights
    the Jed’aii
    the Dai Bendu
    Guardians of Javin
    The Zeffo

    I'm sure I missed many, many, more. If they can't glean any ideas from these stories, I have very little hope.

    If they dust off old Palps, the space nosferatu, I'll be calling for heads.
     
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    Bro. Major missed op with all things Legacy. Dark Horse tells better stories than Disney.

    Bantha kriffing Rawk, man. And secret agent mommy. Drug addicted pirate Skywalker.

    And Treis Sinde for crying out loud. And Darth Krayt's One Sith. Plus Karness.

    And Zeltrons. A better Empire lol. And Vader's PANTS.

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    Perpetually reincarnating the devil or big nemeses of the good guys has been a staple of myth, legend and religious scripts for centuries. But people react to the concept of Sidious/Palpatine/The Sith possibly returning some day as if we're talking about taking out a third mortgage on your house just to pay for a trip to Disneyland.
     
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    I don't say a lot when it comes to the ST as I was taught if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all, complaining is just personal temporary relief of frustrations. But if you can't think up a new threat to the GFFA in 39 years, maybe you're not the screenwriter you think you are.
    If they reincarnate Palps again, I will seethe publicly instead privately, which I currently do.
     
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    Yeah, the return of the villain, that exists in order to epitomize the villainous aspect of this fantasy world, isn’t absurd. That’s the character’s function. How well or poor it works in the story depends entirely on the execution.

    I get the criticism though. When you get a line like Maz’s in TFA, “Through the ages, I've seen evil take many forms.” You’d kind of want to maybe see one of those other forms at this point.

    Specifically, I don’t much like the idea of Palpatine somehow surviving within Rey. It’s antithetical to the finale of the ST. She’s given the choice of embracing a legacy defined by “hatred” and “revenge”, that would allow that darkness to literally persist inside of her. And she resoundingly rejects that legacy at the end. It doesn’t make any thematic sense for the result to be the same regardless.

    It totally undermines the message of TROS. Though, I guess, some folks feel the Sith surviving at all undermines the message of ROTJ, so . . . . . . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    (obi-wan ghost)The Final Form was out there; elsewhere.... so dadgum elusive.(obi-wan ghost)
     
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    (yoda 2)“No, there Is another.”(yoda 2)
     
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    For real, though... I remember Celebration 2019.

    Y'all were excited for Palpatine. Almost everyone was. Don't pretend you weren't.

    Just because Abrams fumbled the idea doesn't mean it was inherently a bad idea.
     
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