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Why didn't Rey do this in TLJ

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by The Last Deadeye, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. The Last Deadeye

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    So just saw it again today. And I realized something. Kylo was lying unconscious in Snoke's throne room... Rey left before he woke up. If she really didn't see any hope for him, or wasn't attracted to him, why didn't she kill him? Would've been a great opportunity...
     
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    Because she is not a murderer?
    And most probably Kylo was just pretending for Hux, either way how could he know Rey took Snoke's shuttle? Hux is more of an idiot than I thought...
     
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    Hux was the one who knew Rey took Snoke's shuttle. If Kylo was faking he did a really good job. Also I am sure he would try to stop her if he was conscious. I wonder if she didn't kill him because she didn't want to make the mistake Luke did. But at this point it wasn't about what Kylo would do. Kylo had already done it. Just wondering if it points to Rey having some hope after all for Kylo.
     
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    Oh it was Hux who said that? I thought it was Kylo after saying she had killed Snoke, my mistake.
    Remember Rey just put her life at risk going there just to try and save Kylo, it doesn't make sense for her to try to murder him 5 minutes later.
     
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    I agree, the question is, did her feelings change between that moment and the end of the movie? Because even though she came to save him, he obviously rejected her offer for redemption. So she had every reason to believe he was unredeemable at that point.
     
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    But then they wouldn't be able to rip Luke's character traits from him only to give them to her instead. That's what it is at this point. She sees someone who is basically set in his ways and will do his best to bring the galaxy to its knees and she just doesn't do anything.
     
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    Because no one is unredeemable, this is one of the most important messages of the OT, which Luke idiotically forgot somehow, let's hope at least someone, at least Rey learns the lesson this time...
     
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    Totally agree, that's what I hope happens. I think a lot of people (especially the Reylo haters) are trying to write off the idea that Rey still has hope for Kylo. This sequence kind of confirmed for me that she doesn't think he's gone.
     
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    The only real hope that should remain at this point is the hope that she'll be strong enough to kill him when the time inevitably comes. I genuinely think they've written themselves into a corner here by making a villain who seems entirely hellbent on making sure his rule is absolute. I doubt any last-minute reveals of them being related or whatever could fix any of that either. After all the stuff that happened in this film, it would just seem kind of cheap and inconsistent.

    He's very much like Exar Kun in the sense that he's practically willing to do anything to stay in power at this point because he simply can.
     
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    Because that isn't who she is. And Luke almost killing Ben is the mistake he was ashamed of and that Yoda said needs to be passed on to Rey. it's also why Rose saved Finn. Because killing your enemy isn't what wins wars. Saving the ones you care about does.
     
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    I agree unless they start the redemption early in IX and not at the last second, it has to be building throughout the movie, we have to see the conflict, otherwise it will definitely feel cheap.
     
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    I think what's getting missed here is that Kylo isn't truly evil. In the way the Emperor and Snoke were. He just has his vision for the galaxy under his control. She doesn't agree with that vision.

    It's not to say he will rule as Snoke did. We don't know.
     
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    I think he's kind of like Anakin, thinks he is wise enough and powerful to rule, and would do anything to get there, but legitimately thinks he can make it better.
     
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    Neither was Anakin and he still thought that death was the punishment he deserved. Like I said, he's as crappier Exar Kun in virtually every capacity. You can't just make a character in a story that seems to purposefully go out of its way to make sure he does things worse than anything Anakin ever did and then go, "Don't worry, there's still hope for him."
     
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    ^^^^^^
    This.

    I hope there is a time skip. I hope the crawl goes something like......

    Years have passed since KYLO REN became Supreme Leader of the known GALAXY. Trillions of innocents are enslaved, executed or imprisoned for speaking out against Ren's evil NEW EMPIRE.

    Then a paragraph of hope, blah, blah, blah, blah. And still people be like "But he can b saved! There's still good in...." OH SHUT UP!
     
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    So you don't want him to be redeemed? (that's cool, no problem with that)
     
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    Even if he is the last living Skywalker. He killed Han & by trauma
    Luke

    For the good of the Galaxy.......only his death will do.
     
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    He can die and still be redeemed, just like Vader.
     
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    Rey saw Kylo kill his father and slice her friend's spine, and only a couple of days later she was all "I'll bring him back to the light"....and you're wondering why she didn't kill him after he made a bad choice? He's more likely to die of old age than by Rey's lightsaber, he has literally nothing to worry about there. Speaking of which, at the end of the movie she had the broken lightsaber, which means that she went over to his side and picked up up. I bet she checked his breathing too, and was all "Yeah he'll be fine, I can leave".
    Also, if she were to kill him, you think she'd do it while he's lying helpless somewhere? She's doesn't have it in her to do something that despicable.
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    He killed Luke by trauma? Really? Are you sure he didn't do it by putting a hex on him? Or by breathing in his direction a few years prior? I mean as long as we're coming up with ridiculous ideas.
     
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    That is not the most important message of the OT, can you see Sidious being redeemed? Or forgiven? I doubt that. The message from the OT was 'never give up on the ones you love' and 'there is always hope'.
     
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