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SPECULATION Will Finn be The Last Jedi at the end of the Trilogy

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Oneforceonebalance, Aug 8, 2017.

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Will Finn be a Jedi

  1. Finn will be the Last Jedi

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  2. Finn no chance he be a Jedi

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  3. Finn the best character in the new Star Wars Trilogy

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  4. I don't Like Finn

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  5. Finn too dark to be a Jedi

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  1. Master_Rebado

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    Finn no chance he be a Jedi
     
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    I fully understand the pessimistic tone that it was written under and decided to turn it positive. That's how I see Finn. He's going to have a great story arc through the three films.
     
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    For the folks who did not or do not want to watch, the speculation/opinion in the video revolves around the strength of Finn IF he is not a force-sensitive or eventual Jedi character...

    It makes sense not to make him a Jedi if it isn't going to be a major part of the story.
    Making him FS would be a disservice to the character because if he is not FS at all it means that:
    • He, on his own, was able to overcome the brainwashing/conditioning that the FO had done to him, not because he had been "awakened".
    • He had the courage and gumption to save Poe from the clutches of the FO.
    • Even though he was absolutely terrified of the FO, he had the courage to go back and help save Rey from them. He was willing to risk his life and face his greatest fear to save his new friend.
    It makes for a better character if this is his true nature shining through. That he's not being led by the Force, but that he's being led by his own principles and beliefs that he is forming on the fly, because he's overcoming brainwashing that he's been put through since he is very young.
    In TLJ, the fact that it appears that his courage and convictions are leading him back into the heart of his greatest fear is even more impressive because he's NOT force-sensitive.

    It then goes on to speculate that a story that involves Finn COULD end up taking center stage IF Rey falls to the dark side and Finn has to save/redeem her, which IMHO would be a pretty cool story.
    I have tried multiple times in the main Finn thread to convey almost exactly this (How awesome Finn was that he was able to accomplish what he did) but the video does a far better job of conveying it.
     
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    What a twist Rey turns Dark? Forget about who her parents are? She will become an agent of evil and Finn must save her...EPIC.
     
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    This is my response and comment to this video:


    I'm a Finnist (believe that Finnis FS) like others who are like me, Finn he appears much to be force sensitive, when the Hosian system was being destroyed he heard their screams and they showed you in TFA after him hearing the screams where he was hearing the screams while they showed the shot of them being diminished by the Starkiller base weapon. This happen to Finn right after Rey has her force vision. It is being unfair why is every force user like Rey? Very strong with the force with no training? Best thing for Rey is her going to the Darkside, the only way to save face of her being a Mary-sue. If Rey defeats Kylo Ren with no training, the person who destroyed Luke's school, then in reality what can Luke teach her? In one movie she learn to wield the force, the force mind trick, read the deepest fear of Kylo Ren, escape, harm him, save Finn, and find Luke. What can Luke teach her now? What she going to do is redeem Luke? Mary Sue, only way to save her character now is make her go to the darkside, and Finn who cares deeply for Rey, goes to save her and Finn being part of the First Order knows how evil they are, and him rejecting them clear sign he will not be tempted by them. Is the one to save her. I predict in the Last Jedi Finn learns more about the force and welding the force by Maz and maybe DJ, or even Leia, but more so with Maz. By 9 he goes to save Rey who a new Darkside User who side kick might be Kylo Ren. Snoke might be Rey's father or blood family or her family is part of the First Order and this is used to turn her. On Star Wars' website on Rey's data bio it said about her and Finn, their life are shaped by the awaken power of the force: " Rey and the renegade stormtrooper Finn forged an unlikely friendship, escaping Jakku and finding themselves caught in a galactic war – with both of their destinies shaped by the awakened power of the Force." Rey and Finn and others we will see they're children of the Force and in TFA these two sorry three are awaken by the light side of the force , it awakens them after Luke goes off disrupted about the light side of the force. This is why Kylo Ren in TFA still feels the light due to the light side of the force awakens, and that's why he notice Finn in the beginning of the movie and the light side of him sense something in Finn that is still in himself.
     
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    To clarify Kylo's skill with a light saber, the TFA visual dictionary refers to Kylo being known as the Jedi Killer because he wiped out the Jedi at Luke's Jedi temple with his lightsaber skills. So it is safe to say that he quite skilled with a lightsaber
     
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    I would really enjoy something like that. I mean except the Snoke being Rey's father bit.
     
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    I can hear and see Yoda force ghost saying to Rey about Kylo Ren " a Jedi killer... is.. he , gone... to the Darkside". Anakin Skywalker force ghost saying to Luke after " You must bring balance back to the force, as I once did>"
    Obi force ghost finish the conversation " Rey you ... must kill him! it's the only way bring balance back to the force" and Rey say " no I can't'. Luke walks out and say " I only know one truth .... the Jedi must end...
    eating late at night.
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    Him being at the top 1% of all stormtrooper cadets, and him not killing people despite his programming needs to be explained.
     
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    There's a decent theory above.
     
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    I believe he is FS. Otherwise all those other things don't make sense.
     
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    I like this video. I don't see them going this way at this point. But there are some possibilities.
     
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    He doesn't hear the people screaming in the Hosian system. The timing is wrong, that's not that force abilitiy (as we've seen it before) works, the script says he hears a "sound" (ie - the weapon) not the people screaming, hints that him being force sensitive would be important the plot but it was left out of other TFA material (novel, comic book), the sound effect of the force being used isn't there, he looks up at the lase blast, not where the system is (if he is "hearing" the people, why isn't he looking at where they are?) etc...

    Hes a skilled person with a conscience.

    nope. The problem with arguments like this (basically just confirmation basis) is that you make them about anyone/anything. And basically retelling Rey's story from TFA and TLJ with Finn over TLJ and Episode IX isn't a high level of storytelling we should all be looking forward to seeing.
     
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    Ben: Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing through him.
    Luke: You mean it controls your actions?
    Ben: Partially, but it also obeys your commands.

    The idea that Finn is just a puppet of the Force, without any control or free will, doesn't cut it with me.

    Han: That's not how the Force works

    I believe Finn is Force sensitive: I don't think that diminishes his actions in any way. The force may be guiding him, but it is Finn's choice - a heroic choice - to stand and fight when his sense of self-preservation is telling him to run.
     
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    then why shove the force into the situation/onto the character when it isn't needed?
     
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    I'm sorry. I didn't realise you know the entire story of epidode VIIi and IX. :p
     
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    says the person saying Finn has to be force sensitive.
     
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    I didn't say he has to be - I said I believe he is.
    You say that the force is not needed - that's a definitive statement. It's only true if Finn is not force sensitive. As we do not know that yet, and might not have a definitive answer until ep IX it's a hell of a leap 1/3 of the way into the story.

    I have a belief; I'm keeping an open mind until more of the story unfolds which will either confirm or refute my belief.

    You've decided already.
     
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