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SPECULATION Will Finn be The Last Jedi at the end of the Trilogy

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Oneforceonebalance, Aug 8, 2017.

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Will Finn be a Jedi

  1. Finn will be the Last Jedi

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  2. Finn no chance he be a Jedi

    72.6%
  3. Finn the best character in the new Star Wars Trilogy

    12.3%
  4. I don't Like Finn

    6.8%
  5. Finn too dark to be a Jedi

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  1. SKB

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    Luke was not a scavenger. Luke was a farmhand (help/assistant) on his uncle's moisture farm. The Rey-Luke scavenger comparison you make is wrong.

    In his spare time, Luke liked racing his T-16 Skyhopper and liked to tinker with it to increase its performance, much in the same way Rey did, as she also built her own speeder. But Luke did not scavenge machinery to sell for food and water like Rey did. His aspirations were far greater than that of a farmhand (his uncle and aunt knew it too) and he had planned to join the Imperial Academy like his best friend Biggs Darklighter had, to escape his dull farm job.

    As for Finn, a Jedi? No chance. Finn exists in Star Wars as the bumbling, clumsy "Cowardly Lion" type character who has moments of heroism and bravery. A bit like Jar Jar.
     
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  2. Pastor Barndog

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    Finn is funny but I think bumbly is hyperboyle.

    Cowardly. Absolutely not.
     
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    Interesting.
     
  4. SKB

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    He was trained as a First Order soldier to obey commands without question or hesitation. When ordered to shoot villagers on Jakku, he became weak, refused to shoot and therefore disobeyed orders and failed as his duties as a soldier. Pretty much the definition of a coward in military terms.
     
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    Not following orders on performing genocide in front of your superior is a sign of cowardice? It's a sign of contumaciousness, bravado, maybe foolishness, but you have to have balls of steel to not follow military orders, especially in such an opressive organization as the First Order. If it wasn't fot Phasma's fondess of him, he would have sentenced to death for an act of treason.
     
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    You can compare the FO with the SS in Hitler Germany.
    So everybody who fight FO or doesn't support them was a coward
    BTW why is somebody brave for killing villagers, who can't defense themselves?
    And you can't compare the FO with the military,
    because I pretty sure nobody asked Finn, if he wants to join the FO.
     
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    I take it all back. Finn is indeed a Jedi. Here he is in Jedi robes.

     
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  8. Greywalker

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    Which one is Finn?
     
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    On the left.
     
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    Finn'r real name is John??
     
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    That's the rumor.
     
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    Brilliant comeback. Seriously I did a spit take.

    But the film goes on. He wants out he risks an escape. Brave.
    He ends up on Jakku he rushes to some one's aid. Brave.
    As hard as he tries to run from the 1st Order he ends up on a rescue mission to SKB. Super Brave.
     
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    The Force Awakened in Finn (spec)



    John Boyega on Finn in The Last Jedi

    “We will learn more about his past and where he came from, and potentially why he made the decision [to escape] that he made. I’m also very curious. The question that needs to be answered is why he decided to leave as a stormtrooper in the first place. We will find out just a little bit more about him.”

    Didn't we already find out why Finn left when he told Rey in his first battle he made a choice not to kill for the first order, because he was brought up to do one thing?

    Now since John is saying it is yet to be answered I think it will be confirmation that Finn is the awakening snoke spoke of because we all know that Rey didn't have a particular awakening moment on screen BEFORE snoke said "there has been an awakening" but Finn did awaken from his stormtrooper brainwashing, as stated on the Star Wars website in finns databank

    "FN-2187 was trained since birth to serve the First Order as a stormtrooper, but a skirmish on Jakku AWAKENED his conscience and drove him down a different path.."

    I think Finn we will find out the force awakened in him, and I looked at Rey's databank as well but they don't specify that she had an awakening, like finns and I think it is for a reason. The only reason that this question still needs to be answered is probably because there is more to finns decision than it just being moral with no deeper meaning
     
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    Finn's buffoonery makes me cringe at times but I am still rooting for him. I can only hope that the next 2 films will change his character for the better. I don't understand how one can find Kylo Ren cool and seek redemption for him when he killed his own father and laugh at Finn who fought to rescue Rey. I would not compare Finn to Luke or Han nevertheless he is a hero for the Resistance.

    Rey will become a Jedi so I don't see her getting together with Finn but if she didn't take that route I could see or ship Finey ( I've been in the friend zone and was able to get out and develop an extremely intimate relationship so I believe Finn can too, and for the record it was an interracial relationship) not Reylo. I don't see how a woman who kicks a man and scars his face romantically involved with such a monster. I could see Kylo's greed and thirst to conquer the universe a desire to train Rey for his own selfish reasons. Just like Vader wanted Luke to join him and what did Luke do... jump and run from the monster. I've kept my mouth shut because I really like this forum but the recent mockery of Finn reminds me how little society has changed.
     
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    Finn's conscience was already causing him to reject Phasma's orders to kill the striking miners in Before The Awakening, set before The Force Awakens. The Databank is old and in need of updating in many cases.
     
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    Omg...i normally dont engage in threads that are about people of no interest to me...but...this is now your second post I read that strikes an excellent point and I just cant ignore it :)

    You forgot lying...Finn is lying throughout the whole movie. To everyone...i think i counted once....it was at least 6 or 7 specific direct lying occassions.
     
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    Some fine moral relativism, ugh. There were enough trials about "just following immoral orders" excuses. Can't believe we are discussing this, but hey it 2017.
     
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    Any year really....
    Wars have always been fought for selfish motives with noble excuses. But specially today. War for oil resources under the guise of fighting terorism.

    I think what @SKB tried to accentuate that the military and such organizations like FO follow a certain code. Moral code. In which the loyalty is very very important and that is maintained through following orders. I dont think she/he intended to get into the morality of the orders given by superiors of questionable motivations, as much as he/she aimed to emphasize that Finn in his awakening broke that code. And turned against his brothers in arms.
    It is why tr8r calls him traitor. But not only calls him that...he feels it. You can hear the pain of betrayal in tr8r voice when he meets Finn on the battlefield in Takodana?
    I think this was a great instance in which the movie shows how Stormtroopers are human too with real feelings and who are not just cannon fodder whose lives mean nothing and whose sole purpose in the movie is to be killed in a funny flying/blown off manner so that a hero Poe or Chewie's bowcaster could look awesome?
    ...I dunno...I like them humanized like this not only cuz it gives depth to the story but also cuz it perhaps gives hope that more than just Finn can be awakened and saved?
     
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    Oh, you don't have to explain the scene to me that was pretty obvious why Kasdan wanted to show that.
     
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    I hope so..that it was obvious. But you would be surprised how such nuances are easily missed.
    Anyway...to stay on topic...the other think @SKB pointed out in another thread which kinda nails the coffin in Finn's force sensitivity which is a prerequisite if him being a Jedi. If he were...his midichlorians levels would have been elevated and he would be identiffied as such during his long years of service/slavery in FO ranks.I am sure the test (which is a simple fast blood screening according to TPM) would be performed as a standard one for all tge Stormtroopers upon their inclusion in FO?

    Unless perhaps it is possible that the midichlorians multiply in an adult for some reason?
     
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