Will the Green Saber return?

I agree about Luke saving the day at the end of TFA by fighting Kylo. I don't see that happening and don't really want it to happen that way. I also see Luke as a Yoda/Ben type who can also do battle when the circumstances call for it.
I think his green saber is appropriate for him to use as it represents his becoming a Jedi and, in many ways, surpassing his masters. I think the Skywalker saber will be passed on to Rey, who I believe to be his daughter.

 

I'm hoping that in Episode 8 or 9, Luke has the "Wampa Claw Lighstaber" from the leaked concept art.

He could have gone back to the Wampa's cave on Hoth and retrieved a trophy from a pivotal moment in his life, then constructed a lightsaber into it. The claw could have even been torn off when it attacked Luke's Taun-Taun... Han (or someone from the unseen rescue group) could have found it.

 

See, looking at it from a perspective of character motivation, I just have a hard time seeing Luke remaining passive, knowing that his offspring or relative, or at the very least, the future hope of the Galaxy, is in danger. He doesn't necessarily need to use his saber, but if he has the capacity to help out those he can sense are in need, why doesn't he do it? I just can't reconcile an utter failure of narrative logic there with a need for Luke to be non-violent because he's passed that phase already in the story. There had better be a better reason for him not intervening at some point if indeed he doesn't. If there's need, then you should address that need if you can.

 

I don't necessarily disagree. If Luke can help, the history of his character suggests he will. But the question is, to what degree? After the PT, many would consider OB1 to have been super-powerful, yet by the end of ANH, he doesn't fight all of Luke's battles for him. He says himself that he is getting too old for these kinds of adventures, so he ends up being the distraction to allow the heroes to escape rather than the swoops-in-to-save-the-day hero. I suspect Luke, who is now the same age that OB1 was in ANH, would likely do the same. It just seems more likely to me that Luke will take on a similar role as what OB1 and Yoda were in the OT.

My point is, there are a number of story reasons why he may not be the overall hero who saves the day... not the least of which is that the ST is not Luke's story but the story of the emergence of new heroes. But who knows, Luke's age could be a factor, his motivations may be different, heck maybe he can't help because he is trapped or held captive. We just don't know. But I have enough faith in the writers that they will have come up with a compelling reason, just as you suggest they need to do. Just my two cents.

 

I think it would be absolutely insane for them to not show Old Luke kicking ass with his green lightsaber at some point during this trilogy.

We might only glimpse 'him' (i.e. that young stunt double) in action during the TFA flashbacks, but I very much doubt they'll let Episode VIII pass without Mark Hamill involved in at least one major action sequence.

 

Didn't JJ say in one of the articles that Kylo goes on a journey much like Luke did in the OT. In that case I could see Luke saving the day at the end of TFA, then Kylo growing and learning more of the dark side and conquering Luke in VII, which leaves Rey/Fin to go at it alone in IX and face the monster that killed their mentor. In that case, yes we'll see the green saber in TFA and probably VIII

 

I agree. I would like to see Luke Wield his Green Lightsaber again \m/

My thoughts exactly. Anakin's Blue Lightsaber will be passed down \m/

@Trevor I have the same feeling that by the end of the ST we will see Lightsabers of all colors. Imo Disney already has confirmed that there will be Lightsabers of different colors than those already revealed when Ahsoka returned in Rebels with White Lightsabers \m/

Ever since I was a kid and got my 1st Luke Skywalker action figure I have wanted to see a Yellow Lightsaber in one of the live action movies \m/

@Pastor Barndog that would be cool imo if that was mentioned by one of the older Jedi at some point in the ST that they went into hiding because they received a coded message warning all Jedi to stay away \m/

 

EZRA BRIDGER!

 

Recently, I've had this daydream about the rumored final sequence of the film. Possible spoilers if you're not up on this rumor!

In the final sequence, Rey approaches Luke's hideaway and finally meets him. In my daydream version, we first see Luke...but then, others emerge from behind him: students he's been training in secret for many years. I must admit that among them is Ahsoka Tano, first and foremost. But having Ezra Bridger there could be fun as well. The trick would be to introduce those characters to audiences who haven't watched the TV shows, while giving them the character developments that fans familiar with TCW and Rebels would expect from these beloved characters...

 

Ashoka and Ezra so i guess Kanan bit the dust and Chopper,Hera,Sabine, and Zeb are with the Resistance?

 

Of course! Luke will still have his saber around.

 

Well, I guess Kanan has yet to grow on me - at least anywhere near as much as Ahsoka has. As for the rest of the Rebels crew: none of them are part of my daydream, because none of them is force sensitive, and my daydream was about a secret circle of Jedi and padawans surrounding the sequestered Luke Skywalker...

 

Yes

 

I would love this, and I think it would fit perfectly with Star Wars containing more medieval elements going forward.

In this sort of scenario, I can see the new Jedi Order being more of a small secret society structure, emerging out of the death of the old Older which which was effectively an official state security body, for all intents and purposes. This would resemble the fabled path of the Knights Templar, which was effectively the elite of the elite of the armies of Christendom during the medieval period. The Knights Templar were betrayed by the Church, who saw them as a threat to their power. And now the Knights Templar are Free Masons, Swiss Bankers, or whatever other black helicopter group you can think of.

This may provide for an interesting plot angle with this secret band of Jedi who have been trained by Luke. The Empire obviously propogandized against the Jedi, and we know the First Order continues to do this. What if, in the post-Endor, most people in the Galaxy- I am talking the regular folk, who presumably have something of a say in the new Republic- say, "Enough of this Force crap! Look where's it's gotten us?" And there is an element of society- not just made up of Empire sympathizers, but other regular folk- who believe Luke is some wican-like figure who is the head of a small wican-like secret group who are using their power to pull everyone's strings?

It would make sense for the Jedi in a new Galaxy to be a small group who keep a very low profile and mainly a watchful eye on things and intervening only when needed rather than seeking to routinely manipulate the course of events. It would fit in with what we have been taught is the philosophy of the Jedi up to this point. In this arrangement, you have one Master of the Order type of figure (Luke) who trains each apprentice individually- and only those individuals who the Force "calls" (let's say sort of like getting the "tap" from Skull and Bones at Yale; a "Force Tap", if you will ). After completing one's training with Luke in peace on Skellig, when there is no more training one requires, they face their grand personal test- if they pass, they become a Jedi. Then each Jedi goes off on their own personal and spiritual journey with the Force while keeping a watchful eye and being ready to organize and intervene if necessary.

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I think it's not just a matter of Luke whether or not Luke can help, but whether or not he NEEDS to help. And then, how?

I think from cannon up to this point, we get the sense that Luke intervenes when he feels the need to. Luke was stubborn in ignoring Yoda to go and help Han and Leia on Cloud City. But as it turned out, he had a very intuitive sense for the need to take action. After all, having Leia being captured by Vader risked the possibility that he would discover she was his daughter- which opened up the possibility that she could turn to the dark side. Luke may have been damned powerful, but it would have been hard for him to fight off Palpatine, Vader, and Dark Leia all at once. And we know that Yoda didn't forsee this as a possibility from Obi-Wan.

If Luke is away during the film, then he may not see the need to intervene directly. Maybe he does at one point.

His primary role now is most certianly as a teacher, in any event.

 

No doubt we see the green saber again. Luke will use it at least once. I wager when Luke uses his lightsaber now, it's really powerful. Luke won't be doing gymnastics, but somehow interweaving Force abilities into a heavy saber technique

Oh man these are fantastic ideas! This would be beyond awesome. The foil to the Jedi purge. Outstanding. It has to be this.

"Han dies/6-second Luke cameo/sunset" scenes are no different than "Nude Rey" scene. It doesn't matter what else they "got right" there's no way in hell there's a nude Rey scene. If that script said "nude Rey" scene among the rest would you be going "Oh man can't wait to see the nude Rey scene" or would you be going "there's no possible way, I don't care what else is right, there's no possible way of a nude Rey scene"? Or, wait. Not Rey, Luke. Because Rey would want to be seen, but nude Luke scene. Full frontal. No one wants to see this. No full frontal nude Luke scene and no Han dies. And no sunset. It's all terrible guesswork which hit a few right.

Not happening.

Not happening. I saw the video with JJ, none of this stuff is happening.

Driver does look a bit like Ford in some pictures I've seen.

Also about the lightsaber; the lightsaber is the metaphor of the stories themselves; so it's symbolically ultra-important; especially the blue original. Yes, in the movie itself it's just a tool; but in the meta-movie it's the tales that are "all true"; and the passing of the lightsaber is the passing of the stories to the next trilogy generation. Point being it's very important to the story behind the story.

White could be really cool

 

I do not believe to see the green blade of Lukes saber. BUT we will definitely see Luke.

 

Yeah us seeing Luke suddenly wield his saber would yield a similar reaction to seeing yoda fighting Count Doolu .

 

Tell ANH Obi-Wan that.

 

I meant coming in to save the day...

 

I sure hope you're right. I think the idea of a Luke 2 second cameo, no Luke, Han, and Leia interaction, no Luke using his green lightsaber and doing anything, etc, is absolutely absurd, the only reason why I believe it is because that is unfortunately what all of the evidence points to. I didn't decide what the evidence is. The only thing we have in support of it not being the case is our own very strong feelings on the subject....not a shred of evidence. But like I've said: I lose nothing by being wrong. I hope you're right. It would be the disappointment of the decade if true.

I saw it too, hope you're right.

Not a chance, lol. I believe his character is supposed to be Han's son, but Adam Driver looks like Harrison Ford the same way Kermit the frog looks like the Incredible Hulk, lol.

Although there is someone else whose son he looks like he could be:

I get all the symbolism with the saber, I just don't think it's worth the retcon/revisionist gymnastics of going back and saying things happened in Empire Strikes Back that we know didn't. It's extremely unlikely that both the lightsaber and the hand would ever be found again let alone return to Luke. It's extremely flimsy and fan-fic-y sounding to do that. I'll overlook it for the sake of the film, but I will always absolutely hate that that lightsaber is back. There are other ways to have metaphors and symbolism for history/legacy than to do all these revisionist gymnastics to bring something back that was never intended to return at all. You can defend the idea all you want, but I'm never going to agree that this was a good or even the best idea. It's just something that "is" now, and that's really all that can be said about it.