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X-Men Film Franchise

Discussion in 'Film' started by DarthDwight, Nov 24, 2014.

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What should happen to the X-Men Cinematic Universe?

  1. Marvel should take back the rights and do the characters justice!

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  2. Just reboot the whole thing with new producers at Fox. Mutants wouldn't fit into the MCU anyway.

    10.5%
  3. Get a new production team but don't reboot. A few of those films were great!

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  4. Focus on single character films like Deadpool or Wolverine then do team-up films like the MCU does.

    5.3%
  5. Have Marvel help out but keep them separate from the MCU.

    5.3%
  6. MOAR DEADPOOL!! MOAR!! MOAR!!

    5.3%
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    Do we know for sure they are contractually bound to produce "team" movies of X-Men? Would something like X-force effectively count as the X-men? Do we know how that works?:confused:

    I second that. Best news out of that camp would be that Singer has packed his bags and Miller is the new "Feige" in the XCU. The problem is Singer. The thing is, I don't think FOX sees that. WB certainly is coming around to that view with Snyder, but this is the first financial x-men bust from Singer. The chain on his leash is still very long.
     
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    Hey guys. I updated the poll to discuss our opinions on the future of the X-Men Cinematic Universe.
     
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    With those options, I think the best possibility would be to reboot it entirely now that their star is "Retiring" the character but keep Ryan Reynolds in the fold
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    The thing is, Deadpool appears to be an X-Men spin-off. It doesn't retain the rights. In fact, there was a time when another film company had the rights to Deadpool and Venom before they both reverted to the companies that bought their parent properties. (I think this company was Artisan Entertainment, who were behind The Blair Witch Project, but I'd have to look through my notes on this again to be sure.) But since those are spin-offs, they're not contractually-obligated to use those characters unless their movie needs it. Fox was in no rush to make another movie with Deadpool in it, so they wouldn't be at risk of losing the character if they didn't make a spin-off. Just like how they aren't losing the rights to Gambit as a character because they haven't used him since 2009. (And unless they stick him into one of the other movies that they're making, they won't need to use him again; the Gambit movie looks like it's dead in the water at this stage.)
    Technically, we don't know because the details of the contracts aren't public beyond a couple of facts (Fox has to pay Marvel a percentage, Fox has to put out a new movie every 7 or so years to keep the rights, and a couple of other things). But it's mighty fraggin' suspicious that X-Men Origins: Magneto was restructured into X-Men: First Class and rushed out to a release date before the 7 years were up for X-Men: The Last Stand's rights-renewal, don't you think? (I believe that X-Men Origins: Wolverine was explicitly made to retain the rights without having to commit to signing the entire cast back on, but Marvel vetoed this; don't quote me on that, but it seems like that's what happened.)
     
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    I see. Good analysis. Perhaps Logans FC cameo was a contract cover as well.
    You know, taking this logic to it's end, it would appear that they are contractually bound to cast Professor X, Magneto, and Mystique (and maybe/likely Wolverine) to retain the licence. You know, that would actually explain a lot of the stupid decisions in X:A. Apocalypse can't go more than one movie, alkalai lake diversion, Magneto even being in this movie, Jennifer lawrence in this movie for little reason.
     
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    And this time, don't make the X-men so "squishy". They're way more robust in the comics than they are in the 'Singerverse'.
     
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    I think the casting decisions have more to do with what the directors and studio want than an actual mandate (Singer loves Magneto, Fox conditioned audiences to pay attention to Wolverine at the expense of other characters, and Jennifer Lawrence basically got a disproportionately large role in the last movie because of the success of The Hunger Games) - and for a time, they were actually thinking of writing Wolverine out of X-Men: Apocalypse entirely. I think it's all a matter of deadlines here, and that's what's important to consider.

    I should note that X-Men: First Class was a pretty rushed production, and that's why I mention the deadline being so relevant - they had to do a lot of reshoots late into post-production, and it's a small miracle that they managed to make a movie as good as they did with those constraints in mind. Fant4stic was in a similar position, and they were operating a lot closer to the movie's release date deadline to retain the rights... The less said about the mind-numbing, atrocious final product, the better.
     
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    I think that, with studios and stuff embracing the more "wild" and comic accurate sides, it would also be a good idea to give them their classic suits (within reason)
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    While we're on death watch for Gambit, I wanted to note that Singer has confirmed Mr Sinister as the villain for Wolverine 3. As for new mutants, it has new writers doing a rewrite.
    The biggest news though is that the X:A mall scene finally leaked. My reaction went something like this


    Would you like to know what pained Bryan Singer to have to cut from X:A?
    http://www.cinemablend.com/news/155...eally-didnt-want-to-cut-from-x-men-apocalypse
     
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    I liked xmen 1 and 2. They can reboot everything after that cause it's not very good
     
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    it would be like making superman 1 and 2 and rebooting superman 4 .
     
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    Well it doesn't matter cause I only acknowledge 1 and 2 anyway.
     
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    Actually, odd as it may sound, Bryan Singer already did that::confused:
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    They basically attempted to do that with Days of Future Past.
     
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    I know. They failed
     
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    That's why I said it .
     
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    A 70's style adventure film based on Stan Lee? This could be great or awful, but seeing as the people behind Twilight are producing I'll go with the latter.
     
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