Casting, Racism, Sexism and Kathleen Kennedy

Anakin is the one true Space Jesus.
All non-believers are proliferating heresy and should be burned at stakes!

 

That's a beautifully stated argument. To the point, courteous, logical. Great job.

 

But you see, that's the problem right there. While I rapidly point ou

Oh so now you play the pity card to try to make your argument valid? Since when is comparing your statement to mine an insult? You said you shake your head at something you don't like and I compared it then to a movie and that offended you?

 

Regardless of whether Rey is a Mary Sue or not, we should have seen more and a slower progression of her force skills onscreen, or seen her use the force in the beginning of the film without realising it.

Anakin had Jedi reflexes, Luke was giving a series of tests by Ben. What Rey needed in TFA was more evidence of her force sensitivity.

 

Deep Breathes @Merman, you always be 1 v 5 so dont get burned out.
Criticizing Rey or Finn as presented in TFA is a high crime in these parts.
But look on the bright side at least you can make the case without getting banned unlike another certain popular Star Wars Fan Forum.

@GingerByte

Yeah well JJ did a bad job giving you a passage of time.
But sure I think showing Rey using the Force on Jakku in an obvious way would have been nice.
Being self taught would be relatively fresh but it would certainly have made it seem less zero to sixty so to speak.

Jedi Mind Trick has never been a passive skill even if you just count current canon material.

 

Dude, make fun of posts if you like but don't bring in others faith just for the sake of a laugh. That's low.

 

He didn't make fun of anyone's religion. He just used commonly employed idioms. "Burning at the stake" and "so-soJesus" are used often in common parlance.

 

Yes I know good friend. They say everything here is fair but you are free to step over the PT and all is good but say something negative about TFA and all hell brakes loose.

 

It was discussed earlier in this thread that the reason for that could well be Rey/Kylo's force bond/exchange during the interrogation as it seems tht both went into the others minds. and she shows no real force ability's before that. so its seems reasonable that the reason she even knew what a mind trick was, was because Kylo Ren kinda 'taught her'. Having said that, the bit in TFA where she mind tricked the stormtrooper did irk me the first time I saw the film. I think the general idea for this saga is that the force is awake, and the force powers are gonna be more mad, more intense.

 

If you don't care about others faith than that's your problem but just because you think its something common that doesn't mean it's ok. I have no problem with people not seeing eye to eye with me and that's cool Lilyn but I think we should keep it friendly and even agree to disagree without bringing Jesus, Mary, Buda ect into the mix.

 

"Pity card" lol, you are taking this way to seriously. Like I said, if you don't have any point to make, don't bother posting. This is a civilized forum. Posts like this add nothing to the conversation.

Please less "you" in your posts in the future.

It's not a crime at all, many of us just have different opinion. Besides, I've answered one of your questions (or at least attempted to) on why Rey performing a successful mindtrick and defeating Kylo kind of make sense within the context of the movie and the lore of the OT.

 

It was a decent no prize I give you that but no good enough in my book.

And still doesn't deal with the issue. Some of don't like unearned powerups and Reys sudden mastery of the force felt pretty unearned for someone with no actual training.

 

Well "Burter" I didn't make fun of anyone's religion.

It's a fairly commonly used term to describe characters from science fiction, comics and other genres that are designed to specifically mirror the path of Jesus Christ.

Superman, Adam Warlock (literally modeled after Jesus Christ Superstar), Anakin....plenty others too.

You should be aware that burning at the stake has been a method of "cleansing" across all religions and science fiction as well.

EDITED for addressing the poster not the post.

 

Buddha.

And you're not wrong. It's just that it's not very incendiary or anything. Pretty commonly used turn of phrase. That's all I'm saying,

 

Again no ones faith was attacked.

You are just being very very sensitive about a commonly used comparison.

I mean, for Odin's sake (is that allowed Burt?), Anakin is LITERALLY a Jesus metaphor in TPM.

This is like getting mad about Harry Potter being Wizard Jesus when he's literally a Jesus metaphor.

 

That is actually a very good point. Although she kind of showed some force ability when she felt Kylo in the forest earlier, so it could be the lightsaber as well that awakened her powers.

 

Now you're just LOOKING for reasons to be offended.

Getting your "panties in a twist" or "getting in your panties" is a reference to getting annoyed by something.


Buddha.

Also, considering that Anakin was literally the child of a "virgin" mother, a product of immaculate conception... how exactly is the comparison to Jesus offensive?

 

Oh yeah she had the force, and I'm sure we'll find out why later in the trilogy.
she just couldn't use it, as in she didn't know how. until after she did the mind interrogation with Kylo Ren. and I said earlyer, that Kylo Ren's force powers are unusual and unprecedented. and that his whole character is built around this unstable fire motif. Such as the flame saber, his singed robes, the fact when he uses the force it makes the sound of fire or a roaring animal. so I think when he used his force mind probe thing it was likely he had no filters up, no defences, as he'd likely never had to guard his own mind from another force user.
To me it would make complete sense that his mind probe was volitle and he didn't realise that it would go both ways, the look on his face says as much. and he obviously saw the force potential in her. its likely she saw it in him also.

 

WHERE? What are you talking about? Dude, stop.