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SPECULATION Crazy Theory about Uber

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by TheMF, May 5, 2015.

  1. TheMF

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    First let me apologize if this should be incorporated into a different thread. Also, I apologize if this is not a new theory and for the length.

    The theory...

    What if Uber (at least currently) only resides in Kylo's mind? I could imagine this happening in a couple different ways and will point to some evidence to support this.

    1. Uber may actually be some disembodied spirit of the force "awakened" recently that can speak to Kylo and Kylo is doing his bidding and attempt to fully resurrect him.

    2. Uber may represent some ancient sith that Kylo is imagining, but still is working to resurrect.

    Now for the (flimsy) evidence...

    MSW reports that Kylo's room has a codename of the "padded room." It's also reported in one scene that he is possibly talking to the helmet of Darth Vader. What if he has done research on another ancient sith and also "talks" with them? Who else typically reside in padded rooms? Maybe crazy people who can have multiple personalities or talk to invisible people?

    MSW also reports that Kylo is reluctant to use the super weapon and "Uber" tells him not be "so sentimental". This sounds like the sort of argument one might have with themselves before doing something like this.

    There were some rumors that Serkis was playing 2 characters, but this was later confirmed to be only one. It was also rumored that maybe Serkis voices Kylo, but this was thrown out because it was supposedly confirmed (couldn't find this) that Serkis is doing a MoCap character. This theory could fit all of these. If Serkis is another Kylo personality he could be a voice and also the embodiment of Uber. This would also why it looks like two characters but it is actually only one. (I'm thinking this could loosely be something like Green Goblin/Willem Defoe in Spider-Man)

    It was rumored that Uber is a Zombie-like in appearance...as someone might picture a long "dead" ancient sith.

    Only two characters so far are reported to interact with Uber, Kylo and "The General". I wonder if the General could just be interacting with Kylo instead. Either because he believes Kylo is Uber or he believes Kylo is channeling Uber.

    Now to get a little crazier...

    What if this Kylo is creating "Uber" to act as a father figure in his life since he doesn't have one *cough* Han *cough*? Maybe in his quest to be more like Vader he knows he needs a Sith Master and he is working to revive an ancient one who can both be his master and father.

    So what do you think? I'm not sure how much I believe it myself, but it's fun to speculate and think outside the box a bit.
     
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    This really pushes Kylo further into crazy territory! Personally, I think 'Uber' is someone outside of Kylo's mind, but the 'padded room' and rumors of his infatuation with Vader really paint a picture. Your "crazy theory" (I see what you did there) would be really fascinating to see on screen.
     
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    What about rumours that both Kylo and Gleesons character have meetings with this mysterious uber?
     
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    I guess it depends upon whether the "General" (believed to be Gleeson) communicates alone with "Uber" (Andy Serkis) with Kylo Ren not around.

    In Battlestar Galactica, Six is often "in the room" with Gaius Baltar and other characters but they can't see her. The audience can, Gaius can, but not the other characters.
     
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    Could be interesting but I do personally hope they will not go this path.
     
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    This would make for a very interesting trilogy.
     
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    Is there any confirmation Uber will be in this film?
     
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    Or Uber is bound to an ancient sith talisman and the only time Kylo and Gleeson can see him, it's when they are in the room with the talisman.
     
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    If uber is in ren's head, i'd be pretty disappointed, Star Wars is about characters and this would not be strong enough in my eyes
     
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    I'm not really feeling the whole voices in Kylo's head either. If Uber is in the film, I want a physical presence. BUT, I would be OK with something like this. Kylo hears this voice in his head for Ep. 7 leading the audience to think he's crazy. Then in Ep. 8 we find out that Uber is real and was using the force to get inside Kylo's head to make him do things.
     
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    MSW says Uber has a few scenes in the shot list.

    It's an interesting theory but I highly doubt Uber is just in Kylos head.
     
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    I guess my thinking was that he could still show up as an actual character that Kylo talks to. So they would still have an "Uber" in the scene and Serkis would still play him. He just isn't in an animate form yet. Though I certainly concede the whole scenario is unlikely.
     
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    Imagine this Gleesons general and Kylo having their space peyote moments "going to the church" to meet uber..LoL
     
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    Yes but Serkis's non mo-cap character is said to be the pirate montross
     
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    I like this idea and I did posit something similar myself months back. The only thing is: Serkis, voices in ones' head, Gollum, been done, too similar imho....
     
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    Ha, that's interesting. I never even thought about the Gollum connection, though now that you mention it, it does seem very similar.
     
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    Maybe Uber is a sorcerer who trained Kylo in the darkside of the force his master killed Uber still appears as a ghost to him.
     
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    ya darth plagueis the wise
     
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    Uber could both have a few scenes and be in Kylo's head. If he is crazy enough he does not just hear voices.
     
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    Nice theory but I would prefer a phisical appearance of the ancient Sith Master.
     
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