Darth Plagueis In The Sequel Trilogy.

I think you're right, we won't learn an awful lot about Snoke. I don't expect it either. However, the Sequels should differentiate Snoke from the Emperor, since he's supposed to be a new character. TFA Snoke felt too mysterious and too familiar to me. If they take the exact same approach with Snoke as they did with the OT Emperor going forward, then I have a real bad feeling that he will just be another run-of-the-mill villain, adding a boring epilogue to a story that's already reached its climax. But, to be fair with recent rumors, it seems they are taking him in a different direction in TLJ, which is good because if he's not Plagueis then they should make him something original, but TFA failed to achieve that for me.

In terms of his backstory, the only real thing I want the movies to tell me is how he sustained his injuries. If they explain this element of his character, then it would stop the Plagueis theory from resurfacing again, but, more than that, I just hope this wasn't some arbitrary story decision that will be glossed over.

 

Let me propose the subtleties , from certain point of view.

This rises possibility, however unlikely, that Lawrence Kashdan, who is co-writer of the Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi, has got enough time to learn true name of Darth Vegius..or is it Las Vegas?

May the Force be with you.

 

The votes for ole plag's say it's not minority that get into the plag theory. Any way i'll repeat again from page 100 or so from years ago.... If Snoke is plag's, they wouldn't ruin the movie by telling someone on twitter or anywhere for that matter! If Snoke isn't plag's, then its a mistake / missed opportunity to complete the story of a wise, death cheating sith that started the ball rolling for the take over of the universe via the empire. One more thing... Sidious is a pathological liar of a character... believe him I do not! Bal's out! Have at me

 

Abandoning Plags looks even more stupid if we think that in fact he already transcended the ways of the Sith with his Force alchemy in which he obviously used Darkness and Light to create Life,so he rise above Sith already .If they wanted no Sith Snoke again Plags will fitt. He will corelate perfectly as Luke's counterpart as Luke also found way to treascend the Jedi and put an end to Jedi ways .

 

Just to confirm.

Go to 20.00....

 

PH finally aknowledged the power of Plagueis with some agendas from the past.(once named "obscure character"BTW)
Intention to control the Chosen One.
Well now Snoke is again obsessed with the control of the one from the chosen family . Ben .


And now, witness the power of this fully armed and operational conspiracy theory:

Lawrence Kashdan ,the genius behind Empire Strikes Back (man is probably the greatest mind involved in ST) , who was forbidden to debate critical subjects....christened him ....Darth Las Vegas ,

Las Vegas for the initated means this:

King who never died.

As Elvis Presley is the King and many believe he never died.

Darth Plagueis, King who never died.

 

He may get mentioned as the master of the former Emperor, but I don't see a name drop. I believe Pablo when he says Snoke isn't Plagueis.

 

Plagueis has been poroclaimed "obscure", and unimportant character, and now Pablo states Plagueis has foreseen birth of Chosen one (that is not so easy to do), in fact he pinpointed Chosen one, and togehter with Palpatine tried to get control over the Chosen one, but failed ....

And now Snoke again uses same strategy , controls the gradson of Choosen one because of his perfect traits.

which reminds me...

 

I can confirm it is humor .

 

I believe Pablo. He seemed to get angry that people still didn't believe Snoke wasn't Plagueis even after he told them. He was frustrated.

Let new characters be new characters.

 

Only logical explanation why some still refuse to believe Pablo Hidalgo's statement about Plagueis (and Pablo is renown as honest man, which rises this problem on even higher potention !) is either of this 2 cases:

1.People who refuse to believe Snoke isn't Plagueis have obscure mind disorder of allegiance with obscure SW canon character( which is not so obscure but is the constitute part in the story around Chosen one, as Pablo himself now admits.)

or...

2.Plagueis is extremly captivating character with impressive background story, and this will have such significant impact on overal performance of the Sequel trilogy that some people refuse to believe that Filmmaker made such critical error of judgment.

Disney/LSL should try to understand that significant portion of Star Wars fans ( this threads poll holds biggest sample anywhere about Plagueis I think) shows around 58. %(43+11+4) of SW fans want Snoke to be Plagues, and large majority will have no any problems in accepting Plagueis either.

And "non-fan" public? Let us be honest they can accept any Snoke anyway., however again they will accept well constructed and connecting story, which Plagueis will bring to Saga.

 

This is really a non-issue.

We don't meet the Emperor at all in ANH. In ESB, we see him for all of like 30 seconds. In ROTJ, he's really there to serve as the "super duper bad guy" that can't be reasoned with, only defeated. The whole story was about Luke and Vader.

The fact they decided to put Snoke in TFA at all was a step up from the OT.

Millions of SW fans, that means the majority of the film goers, don't care who Snoke is and won't think about it until it's revealed on screen. We, here on the internet, are the obsessive ones.

 

I find the little paradox in here.

Fans are worried about possible prequel trilogy derivates , we see every day worries TLJ will be rip off TESB, just as TFA was, by many perceived as derivate of New Hope, and that same fans should expect "mysterious Emperor" approach , which will be a genuine derivate approach from prequel trilogy?

even Rian Johnson, director of The Last Jedi must reassure people there will be no rip offs.(derivates) of Original trilogy.



but:

In case mysterios Snoke in Sequel Trilogy never gets explained, it is than a derivate of the mysterious Emperior that was not explained in the Original trilogy.
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Another observation, everywhere there are questions about Snoke.Everyone has Internet today, we are all obsessed with Snoke.

If Snoke will not be significant , and his story will not be great deal kept in secrecy, we will have Snoke more to see by now, but they even removed Lego (!) figurines of Snoke, for not to make confussion amongst " millions of fans and moviegores who don't care".

Lego figurines(Snoke was looking like a human probabaly by mistake or bad design) were removed emediately followed by official synchronized statements of Pablo Hidalgo and others that Snoke is Humanoid alien, to prevent "mistakes" .

To many worries about "non-issue "on an official level, not just on the level of obsessed fandom.

 

I like most of the speculation in this video, however Pademe should remain alive and hidden till now by Snoke. She would be a perfect Political and Combatant replacement for Leia, since Carrie has passed away. The actress is 36? The Irony of Pademe having been kept alive all through Anakin's life and all the way to the ST would be awesome. It would complete the circle of deceit played Anakin. All his anger and hate were for nothing. Heavy message there.

 

Snoke looks like living dead indeed ,which implies cheating death .

He was interested only in preventing the early death of one - Luke, since he knew , just as about every noticable force weilder at some point ( Ben, Yoda, Vader, and Palpatine himself) that Luke is destined to be Palpatine's undoing.And we know Snoke was aware of everything.

Even Maul sensed something and came to Tatooine for....?

Snoke I think prophesied this - Luke's destiny is not to kill him, he fears Luke not , not dirrectly.Luke's destiny was to destroy Darth Sidious ,his mortal enemy,which eventualy he did,hovever Luke should have died at some point, at Endor , which he didn't.

So I think Snoke prophesied later this to - that Luke's not jet identiffied pupil ,at least someone conected with Luke ,could have this destiny to destroy him, ...so he influenced Ben/ Kylo even as a child , as an preempitive action.

He thinks in advance,how Wise of him.

Snoke made all precaucions for Force not to strike back at him, and than.....

The Force awakened, to strike back, which is all this new trilogy is about.

"Darth Plagueis had once remarked that 'the Force can strike back.'"
(novel "Tarkin" , p.113)