Extended Force-Back in VIII (via MSW)

This news isn't too surprising. We know RJ asked JJ to do a few things in TFA to setup Ep8, and we also know that the Force-Back went through changes prior to release. Plus, it just makes sense that given the nature of the scene, that there should be some follow up to it. Should be fun.

 

I for one am not excited about ANOTHER "force back"...ugh...even the term makes me naucious. I went 6 movies and 25 years without one, and now I must endure them in back to back episodes?! Blawwk! I'm not going to get twitterpated about "an extended version" of something we can endlessly debate when better story telling would just lay it all out there.

Just my two cents

 

Never knew Larry King was on these boards. Awesome!

-Just my two cents

 

Thanks man!

 

G. Walton Lucas quotes aren't canon. Having said that, if easily duped prequel Anakin aka the chosen one, isn't the chosen one.... what the hell were the cgi-laden prequels made for? Were they created just so Boba Fett could be made into one of a million (units), instead of one in a million? Or were they made so Syfo Dias and Darth Sidious could sip a cup of tea in the same movie for no reason? I can only hope episode 8 ends with a battle between Ewoks and Wookiees, just because. /End sarcasm.

 

It's quite possible that when and if Luke touches the lightsaber in Rey's hand that he sees not only her vision, but a recap of what happened with Kylo and the slaughter.

 

I think that it might be too much for VIII considering how TFA handled things so it might be a slow rollout of Rey learning of the past in force backs but instead we could see a smaller version of this scene for this movie
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What about Empire? Luke had two "Force Visions" of sorts on Dagobah:

1. Going up against Vader in the spooky force tree.
2. "I see a city in the clouds" during his meditation practices with Yoda.

I saw the Force Back as a derivative of this concept.

 

Empire did it very well and not "in your face..." but TFA somehow made it right up there front and center as a main plot point without following through which is what ESB did., so hopefully if this is true we could get an even more creative spin on things if anything while getting more information.

 

Nothing personal, but I hate this idea. Turning father Skywalker's old light saber into the GFFA-version of Escalibur doesn't sit well with me. "It calls to you!" --What in the name of Mustafar?

There is a force power in existence, that could have served nicely there instead of that flow-walk knockoff.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Psychometry
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Psychometry/Legends

I don't like these new visions of the past... Luke & Anakin had visions of the future. When nothing was certain.
Flashbacks are for lazy story tellers, IMHO.

 

The original idea for the force back was to use it as a ride through the original trilogy.

Maryann Brandon discusses this history and thinking behind the force back here:

I know that scene was one of the last parts that JJ was working on before the film was completed. I would assume that Rian Johnson had a hand in the final product if they're using that device again for Episode VIII.

 

Well actually, Anakin's death vision of Padme was true and the only reason Luke's vision wasn't entirely true was ebcause he dropped his training to go save his friends but these visions of the past are meant to fill in the gaps within that 30 year timespan which is typical JJ and his style if storytelling.

 

Anakin made his Padme-vision(s) become reality, Luke not so much.

And that's still lazy storytelling. I don't care who does it.

 

Oh yeah, no I compeltely agree with that...but the way I see it, the way JJ and all are taking it, it's not only to make more money but it's so the core of the story stays in the present while presenting new concepts that are later explored in other media as well as in future movie to expand upon
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If the partial purpose was to tell it in the other media then I think they should just stick to that rather than explain it in too much detail...have the fans keep being smart about it (i mean, we are very smart and not anywhere near stupid) so the implied details in the story are what should drive our imaginations and such.

 

I like the idea of Luke guiding Rey back into her visions and training her to control her fear, similar to the experience Luke was forced to face in "the cave" in ESB.

Rey will beg Luke not to revisit the vision that made her temporarily abandon her path with Finn/BB-8/The Resistance, because of the extreme fear and discomfort that came with it.

And I think this fear will have much more significance than in TFA. I think she was specifically afraid of something she buried over the years she spent on Jakku (subconsciously, maybe this has to do with The Force and its awakening).

I bet there's much more to her past that's directly connected with her "forceback" and will continue to take hold on her as Luke helps her explore these visions in EP8.

"I'm never touching that thing again.. I don't want any part of this."

There was way too much emotion invested in these memories/visions to just be taken at face value..

 

Would you truly want to see her entire training to be shown through visions though? Honestly, I would prefer direct flashbacks rather than force visions.