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General Andor Series Discussion

Discussion in 'Andor' started by Lord Phanatic, Jun 22, 2022.

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    The Dhani had their own language also.
     
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    Yeah, true and that's another example from Andor, which has been a unique SW outing in that respect, right?
     
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    I can't think of any prior...
    Wow. What a great thing! Excellent catch.
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    Well, there is Mando'a. But they mostly speak Basic.
     
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    Yeah, Mando'a is a fair point. That is mostly used for cursing and some cool-guy phrases, (while Andor had entire sequences and exchanges between humans in bon-Basic), but you're right.
     
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    You're still on to something significant. It all ties into the refugee/forced immigration theme that was clearly stated as a driving force of the series by both Gilroy and Diego. I find the "no subtitles" device with the Kenari scenes to be so powerful. Not only does it make the audience read into the emotions, but it gives us a sense of being the outsider.
     
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    Those kids on Canto Bight stables, in The Last Jedi ending, telling the story of Master Jedi Luke Skywalker, don't speak basic/English IIRC.
    As in Andor, there are no subtitles. But we all know what the li'l boy is saying :D
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    Oh, that's a very good point, sir! Yeah, that was probably the first time?

    I mean, there has been a few "karabasts!" and such, but full sentences and exchanges I think is pretty now :) But TLJ is a good point!
     
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    So, on to more pressing matters......

    Who is this "General Andor" this thread is about?
     
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    Bix.

    Even in Rogue One, Cassian is referred to as Captain Andor. It's obvious that he and Bix got married, and her hours and hours spent sitting on that radio at Paak's earned her enough sweat equity to be ranked General.
     
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    What about Kanjiklub in TFA? Do they count as well?
     
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    Is Han speaking "wookie" in Solo the only example of a human in SW speaking another language but their own (basic/English)?

    That deleted scene of Anakin speaking astromech doesn't count.

    Maybe Obi Wan speaking Krayt dragon sort of counts.
     
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    Didn't Luke speak Huttese in ROTJ?
    Anakin spoke Huttese in Watto"s shop and also to Sebulba.
    Din speaks Tusken
    Peli speaks Jawa
     
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    Good point, @NinjaRen. Kanjiclub definitely spoke non-Basic (some form of Chinese, I assume? But could be wrong).

    @Martoto, Leia speaks in an alien language while in her Boussh disguise.

    Edit: +what @MBWilson said (although I can't remember Luke speaking Hutteese in RotJ)

    +C3PO, of course, speaks Ewok (although he's hardly a human character)
     
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    I don't think Luke spoke Huttese. Bib spoke it while Luke spoke basic.

    Technically, those were signs that Din had learned. The Tuskens do actually have a spoken language. I don't know if the signs were made to communicate with other tribes and species who have their own language. It doesn't make a huge amount of sense to have developed it for a desert environment. Maybe it's a throwback to the time there was deep oceans. And the Tuskens lived and communicated underwater more often.

    Peli can do everything.
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    Seemed to me that was through the use of a voice changer/translator though.


    Technically speaking, huttese is Anakin's own language. Since he has known it practically since birth, along with Basic.
     
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    Cassian and Cinta recite Dhani phrases back and forth as they prepare for the mission.
    Also when Luthen drops Cassian on Aldhani, he lists some of his skills to Vel, and names 3 or 4 languages that he speaks, although we never actually hear them spoken. So Cassian speaks multiple languages.
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    You're right. Bib spoke Huttese, Luke spoke Basic and force-choked.
    When Din first meets the Tuskens in Gunslinger, yes he uses signing. In The Marshall, when he and Cobb Vanth meet the Tuskens, Din actually speaks their language and signs.
     
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    No, she definitelly speaks "alien" to Jabba. Her voice is distorted, as it is when she speaks Basic to the newly-thawed Han, but when she barters with Jabba over Chewbacca she definitelly speaks something other than Basic.
     
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    Yeah I'm saying that the voice changer in her helmet is also doing the translating to whatever language that is.

    Mind you. She only says about four or five different words max.
     
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    Andor uses the stagecraft (aka volume) system. It just expanded it outside the previous limited set up so that it could provide bigger set extensions with bigger set pieces added in front of the LED screens.

    It's not about tech. It's about use and design.

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    One of the best war movies ever made, Battleground 1949, set during the battle of the bulge, was almost all shot on a soundstage. Similar to how they recreated the same Bastogne area and the Bois Jacque woods fifty years later for the equally impressive Band of Brothers.

    I can't think of many war movies that looked as good that were shot on location. And I can think of some which looked considerably worse in spite of going to the expense of location shooting

    It's how you use the artifice.
     
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    Absolutely. One can "see" the Volume in several scenes, especially smaller (probably) insert scenes and the like.

    I assume the Luthien speech scene was in the volum, for instance (paralleling how they made the elevator/coming-out-of-elevator scene in the Mando episode of TBoBF). It looks like that was all shot against he LED screens with the platform sitting a few feet (or more?) above the stage floor. And that's just an example. And similarily, I ASSUME that Mon Mothma's Chandrilla representative appartment scenes were shot in the Volume, too, with the outside projected beyond the set design windows, but I could be mistaken there.
     
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