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Intriguing new character named Aya

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. master_shaitan

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    Yeah she was flying in front of the sun when Luke died. Didn’t you see her?

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    Yes, Luke finally got all peaces together.

    They made that scene in a way it could be. For me there is no doubt.

    Look for yourself the video I posted again.

    please do..

    , watch how Luke is surprised at the begining of video, when he watches over the rock, a revelation is in his eyes just at the begining.

    Is he so surprised for looking in just one of 200 billion stars in the galaxy?

    Something else, and again, something else he sough,in vision of course, its visible in his wide opened eyes and face expression of surprise, of revelation,

    There is faint flying object in front of the star, no doubt it is, many people noted it, some call it a small ship, jet it seems its a bird, its wind-truster in the distance in front of the star.

    Its for re - watching after ep IX..

    They said they made this scene "100 times" until perfect, it is perfect, there can not be coincidence in any element of this scene including "that" passing in front of the star"..

     
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    Bit sad that she finally makes it to Ahch-To just as he disappears...
     
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    He is complete.

    It is the will of the Tide, the Force.

    It is Rey's path and time now , Rey's story now.

    In my eyes this would be perfect.
     
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    I say, please LSL; Kennedy; J.J Abrams; Disney, you can turn it all into a blast.

    Rey's extraordinary powers require this extraordinary explanation and a glorious twist.
    You have it all in the story about Lew'el, Deluge...redeeming story ,for ep. VIII, for Rey, and entire trilogy.


    Take it and save us all.
     
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    I liked the book ok, and the idea behind it was fantastic, but it was a little too bland for a 'Legends of Luke Skywalker' book. They really needed to amp up the stories of him doing extraordinary things if they are going to treat it as a myths and legends kind of set-up.

    I'm surprised by how many people assume Rey's total story with such certainty. While I loved TLJ for what it was, things didn't go they way I wanted, but I really didn't know going in, what they were going to do with the question of her parents and it may not be over. I don't think it was that she was a nobody that bothered folks with TLJ, it was the mystery box/possible crap editing of TFA that made the audience assume something (and possibly ruin repeat viewings), while at the same time leaving things open ended, and then adding the unecessary line about drunkard parents. I really think LFL outline was minimum, like: Beginning point - mysterious girl goes to Luke, Final Point: Girl is new Jedi. Fill in the blanks. JJ and Kasdan appeared to have written it with options so the baton handoff could go the way the next storyteller wanted. I want(ed) Rey to be Luke's, but I just don't see how they can do that now without it feeling a little more than awkward or weird, but that has never stopped Hollywood before. I would be pleasantly surprised if they can pull it off. JJ is probably more of a sucker for the good ole' fashioned ending. It would be nice to have that, because if I wanted to hear about crappy parents doing terrible things to their children, I would watch or read the news more regularly. Star Wars needs to be hopeful with happy endings IMO.

    I have read quite a few of the new canon novels and there really hasn't been much of a payoff when it comes to the big screen, so the chances of Aya being her mother are more than slim. It is more for subtle enrichment, if you can even call it that. I took away from the novel this at the end: They all shared a story about Luke and he is what brought them together in a shared moment of hope, which fits the theme of the movie at the end of TLJ as he was the hope, or lighter for the 'Spark' throughout the galaxy going forward.

    As far as the theory, they could do this without a whole lot of trouble and minimal exposition. At some point during Rey's journey in IX she discovers more truth about her parent(s) and she finds out she was born to (with or without Luke's help) her mother, Aya. This could work, simply because to a regular movie goer Luke's force ghost explains to Rey he knows of Aya and her planet, and that the force must have guided her to him, etc., etc. To the reader, you have a deeper connection established. This could also then bridge Maz's comments, the saber calling to Rey in TFA, etc. The other component is that Aya (Flux) was a stowaway in the novel, and was curious about the galaxy, etc. Perhaps Aya was a space transient/hobo exploring the galaxy in a frugal way as an ongoing stowaway aboard starships. At some point she had Rey, and the ship blasting off in TFA forceback was her, as they were separated in some manner of fashion.

    We shall see. Fingers crossed it doesn't end with some drunks.
     
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    "Fishing on Deluge " is central story in the novel."Legends of Luke Skywalker".

    Its is also only story that is confirmed by the Last Jedi film by numerous references, from spearfishing by Luke on Ahch-To , to the description of the Force itself to Rey in Luke's teachings on Ahch-To ,to the fact Luke has disconected from the Force just like he learned is the wisdom on planet Lew'el,
    Yes Lew'el people are seemingly disconnected from the Force jet are living by the Force entirely, just like Luke on Ahch-To.

    That Luke has once been on Lew'el is officialy confirmed by Pablo Hidalgo.(visual disctionary).

    By this ,Aya Glon, as a Force sensitive young women, who once boarded ship as a stowaway at her age of probably 19 and gone to find Luke did happened.

    Reading the entire novel, it is most likely Luke has visited Lew'el in the time just after Battle of Endor to battle of Jakku when he was age 24.He has no beard , he is described as young and wonderous ,.. 30 years before "present time".

    He met Aya at Lew'el more than 10 years before Rey was born, when Aya was child of 12.I dont understand what is wrong in that he just met her, just like Anakin met Padme. In fact Luke saved Aya from certain death and their destinies interconnected. She was to die, jet from the book it seem Force itself had a different role to Aya.Its a rich story that is introduced in canon.

    In the novel, she is personaly telling her story, first person, at her age of probably 19 while stowaway on a ship to canto Bight, searching for Luke.

    Aya was thus most likely 22 years when Rey was born, Luke was 34, she was Force sensitive,to.

    Their child would be something-unique.

    The story in which Aya was one of Luke's assistants in creating new Jedi is thus very plasible almost inevitable.

    Scene of Luke spearfising using exact technique of extremly long spear fishing decribed in book "Legends of Luke Skywalker" he learned on Lew'el.This requires ultimathe faith in the Force .
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    Basher shark spear described as used by Aya Glon on Lew'el.

    Luke uses it for tip of his long fishing spear.

    A tooth of a large shark is used as a tip of the spear.

    Explained in "Legends of Luke Skywalker" and shown in The Last Jedi.

    Such fine details, ..why bother to deliver such subtleties in the film, 99% people can not comprehend it in this moment and cant see anything, why bother with such details which, however, are absolute 100% precise reference on Lew'el ?

    Cohernce details for future reference, I think.



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    I'm all for Rey Skywalker with the knowledge of Luke being on Jakku, the story parallels and the sheer hope we are not left with Kylo, but what the hell are we looking at here? Is this supposed to be a Wind-Truster?

    Anyhoo.....

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    She is glorious .
    Daughter of Luke Skywalker, and woman that represents ancestors of original Force weilders.
    Old and new,united by the will of the Force, a fresh blood brough by mixing ancient and new, explaining pefectly her immense power and signficinace for the galaxy.
    Perfect.
    J.J. Abrams,Rian Johnson(the entire crew) are genius.
    People will expect nothing special from ep IX, only to have jaw drop unlike anything seen before.
     
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    I love this idea and your commitment to it. You have way more faith in JJ & Co. then I do! If they pull it off, then I will agree with the genius part. I hate that Rey's parents are supposedly scum of the earth drunk deadbeats. This would give some emotional payoff and so many things like Rey's vision, the Skywalker light saber calling to her and her power would finally make some sense. The best part would be the meltdown of the Reylo fan girls. :D I cannot overstate how much I would enjoy the epic freak out over knowing that they were shipping incest. :p;)
     
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    Don't encourage him.

    JJ wrote Rey as a no one.

    It wouldn't be genius. It would be laughable.

    Why? This is a strange view. Her parents were written this way to provide the most amount of conflict and drama for the character. You're dislike seems to be personal, like you are sad that this character didn't have nice parents. She isn't your friend. You aren't related to her. Don't feel bad. She isn't real. Her parents are who they are to make her story interesting. Having decent or heroic parents would reduce conflict and by extension of that, make her less interesting as a character.

    That payoff occurred in TFA. The payoff being that she ran from the fear to begin with and then faced it later on.

    She's the reaction of the light to Ren's darkness. That's why the saber...or rather, the Force, called to her.

    It already makes sense. But even if it didn't, how would her being Luke's daughter make more sense of it? The argument is that she learns the Force too quickly - not why she is powerful in the first place.

    + FanBoys. But that won't happen because ReyLo was already a thing in TFA & TLJ.

    I know exactly how you feel. I've felt the same joy since ReyLo was confirmed in TLJ.
     
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    Why do people keep hanging on to the "Rey is Luke's daughter" trope, while JJ Abrams himself specifically stated that Rey's parents are not in SW VII.
    Guess who's in VII?.....Han Leia and......LUKE.


    Speaking at the Tribeca Film Festival, the 'Force Awakens' director seemingly ruled out a number of likely suspects for Daisy Ridley's character's mom and dad.

    "At first Abrams jokingly told the kid to get out. But then he may have dropped a big clue about the identity of Daisy Ridley's character's mom and dad: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII. So I can't possibly say in this moment who they are. But I will say it is something that Rey thinks about, too.


    That information seems to contradict popular speculation that Rey could be Luke's daughter or the daughter of Luke's sister Leia and possibly Han Solo, making her Kylo Ren's sister."

    If this isn't a debunk, I don't know what it is.
     
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    I'm not really sure anything has been confirmed, but shouldn't this disturb you just as much - or at least the majority viewer in the age of Weinstein? The heroine having a relationship with an abusive, disturbed and patricidal individual. Somehow - that is okay instead? Do you have any children? LOL

    I think Rey is better off running from a majority of these guys.
     
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    Not sure what Harvey Weinstein or me having kids has to do with Rey having an attraction to and feeling compassion for Ben Solo. And you can uncover your eyes. She didn't sleep with him. She rightly rejected him when he chose to remain on the Dark Side.

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    Nothing has been confirmed, but you have to admit there are lots of hints concerning these two.

    I real life them having a romantic relationship would not be okay, but in movies it can be done for the sake of creating plots and shocking twists in a story.
    If everyone would play it on safe when making a movie, it would be dreadfully dull to watch.
    Kinda like LOTR.
    People want drama, why do you think GOT became such a huge success?
     
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    Interesting......... I still like Rey's parents being unimportant, but I would say this woman has a strong chance of being Rey's mother, though I'd draw the line at Luke being the father. The age gap doesn't sit very well for me. The idea of Rey fulfilling the destiny her Mother never could works reasonably well.
     
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    My time on this forum would be so boring without you around.:p We've been over this, or maybe we haven't, I've lost track. Anyway, I find all of the explanations for Rey weak, unfulfilling and incomplete. She's powerful because she's the response to Ren's darkness, Snoke said so. Don't like it and I think it's a lazy, poor excuse of story telling. Just my personal opinion. Same with Rey's parents, I don't like that they are scummy losers. Wait!? Rey isn't my friend and I don't know her personally?? OMG, thanks for dropping that bomb! Yes, I'm fully aware that she's not real and this is just a movie. How on earth was Reylo confirmed? Whatever was going on with their force connection was broken when he chose darkness and she walked away. I don't get what the excitement is over that? Bottom line, I didn't like the story or the weak explanations that were given for Rey. It doesn't keep me up at night and I'm not expecting anything to change in Ep. 9, but I do enjoy McDiarmid's theories.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 30, 2018, Original Post Date: Jan 30, 2018 ---
    I'm not hanging onto any theory for Rey's parents and not expecting anything to change at this point. I'm just enjoying the theories that are still popping up on here. That's all, so simmer down.
     
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