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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. Bandini

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    I think the main plot of this trilogy is the journey of Rey to become a jedi and her search for her origins so I think we will know during ep IX.

    We haven't met them yet because they're part of the whole trilogy plot and Ep VII was more an introduction of new heroes than a real story.
     
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    I would agree but I would alter one thing.... It's better to say that Rey hasn't met them yet or at least doesn't know if she has.
     
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    Just my idea but I think Luke may have known her as a baby and knew she was a grand daughter of obi wan and when she was orphaned, he entrusted her to someone just like obi wan did with him as a baby. But they dumped her on Jakku. Luke does not know this.

    It would tie in with what Pablo has said about her being dumped on Jakku
     
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    On Rey being Ezra and Sabine's daughter, Pablo had already denied this in a tweet - "[Is Rey the daughter of Ezra and Sabine?] No." (February 4, 2016)

    The following are some of the replies by Pablo to questions on twitter about Rey's relation to Skywalkers/Solos:
    "[Am I allowed to tell you that Rey is 100% definitely not Han/Leia's daughter? Is there no more hope for that?] Half the fun of Star Wars is speculating. It wouldn't be any fun to have someone take that away." (December 19, 2015)
    "[Is Rey a Skywalker? Kitten for yes, Puppy for no.] <Image in reply: Hedgehog>" (April 27, 2016)
    "[Looking at the 'Bloodline' stuff, is it safe now to say that Rey is not Luke's daughter?] <Image in reply: Puppies>" (April 27, 2016)
     
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    Odd choice for someone trying to rebuild the Jedi Order.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we learn in the future that in Lucas' treatment there were 3 Solo children. Finn/Rey being twins or close together and of course Ben. I've noticed a few people in the storygroup adamant about expanding the universe so they moved in a different direction instead of doing Skywalker vs. Skywalker round 2. Instead Kylo/Luke/Leia would carry the Skywalker banner with Ray/Finn/Poe used to expand the story. By training Rey to defeat Snoke/Kylo, Luke can finally bring balance to the force by restoring the Jedi Order.
     
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    I have a hard time believing anything the staff at Lucas film say about Star Wars in regards to the plot. How much is true and how much is red herring. I always use this as an example. J.J once told us that Khan was not going to be in ST Into Darkness. Well look what happened. I know PH is not JJA but I won't take anything as definitive until I see the movie. Even then Star Wars is known for throwing us way off the trail. A prime example of some that have already been brought on this thread is Luke and Leia being brother and sister. Who saw that coming. also the way its set up in a new hope she is Princess Leia Organa, and he is a farm boy Luke Skywalker whose father was killed by the evil Dark Lord Darth Vader. For the three of to end up family by the third film was way out of left field.
     
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    I find these OT examples weak since we know that Lucas didn't have a clear vision on the story's direction when he was making the films. As it stands right now we know Rain Johnson was writing VIII and the treatment for IX while TFA was being made. He was working with the story group and making subtle requests for JJ for TFA. This type of planning is far beyond the the first six films Lucas made.

    Also, PH isn't really giving any direction on future films. He basically trolls on questions that are in regards to future films.
     
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    Lucas did actually have a story written out for the whole trilogy. He just changed things as the movies came out. He was flexible do to creativity and or uncertainty of weather or not movies would be made. Also if you re watch the movie you can see ways in witch he did hint at certain things not being totally true. and you can see how there was a lot that was vaguely touched and could have been altered a little to show different story but have the same element.
     
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    Not sure how this helps with your original point. We know how the history of how the original trilogy was made. When he made a New Hope he didn't have Anakin as Vader or the Skywalker siblings planned. This trilogy is pretty much planned out already and has been for a while.
     
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    Maintaining and editing the list on the forum was becoming a PITA, so I've moved and compiled Hidalgo's tweets and comments into a massive list here and here (so far).
     
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    While Pablo has been coy or evasive concerning various things, there are a few things that he had definitely declared to be false:
    1. Jyn Erso being Rey's mother
    2. Ezra and Sabine being Rey's parents
    3. Snoke being Darth Plagueis
    4. The idea that Ben turning against Luke and Rey being abandoned on Jakku took place around the same time. Pablo's statement was later supported by the book Bloodline, in which Ben was still traveling with Luke about a decade after Rey had been abandoned.
     
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    I'm not saying it's impossible that things they say are true. I just think that we have to take them with a grain of salt, and wait for the movies to tell us before we count anything out. We have to realize that Lucasfilm wants to be speculate and theorize and to argue with one another about our ideas. They want the hype. So anytime they can throw out a red herring that could stir up conversation between the two schools of thought. You can bet they will do it.

    I never really saw 1-3 as real options. Though I thought they were cool ideas. I agree with number 4. unless her memory of being abandoned is false but even then where was she during Bloodline and why wouldn't Han and Leia remember her. obviously you have reasons for that to. But still seems unlikely. Even so, that one fact doesn't take away the possibility of Luke being Rey's father.
     
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    Except...JJ has said that while she didn't meet them in TFA, or know who they are, they are already in her world.

    This was in response to his original comment, that her parent's were not in TFA. (because people's immediate response was "then that means Luke is not her dad!")

    When he clarified, he said that "while she might not know them yet in TFA, they are already in her world." (paraphrased - check the quote index for the original exact quote)

    So, he either out-and-out lied (definitely possible with JJ, lol) or then they are people in TFA - either Han/Leia or Luke, most likely.
     
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    My bet is her being the love child of Nien Nunb and Leia from a fling they had way back when Han was racing.
     
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    I'm just gonna leave this here
     
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    I don't think Rey is her real name. The Aurebesh on the rebel helmet she had in her walker-house spelled "Reah". Someone gave her that name when she was put on Jakku. What if it's a reveal that Luke named her "Padme" but she goes by Rey? Just a thought.
     
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    i think you're right, Rey is probably not her true name. whether or not it's Padme or something like that is another thing, but i think the false name is definitely the cover and set up for whatever reveal they're planning.
     
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    Rey is likely not her given name. In one of the junior novels (Before the Awakening, I believe) it says a girl who calls herself Rey. That means one of two things. Rey is a nickname/shortening of her given name, or it is a name she calls herself in place of her given name. That being said, I suspect that no matter what her name is, she will keep Rey because that is the name she identifies with.
     
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    And it would be a commercial nightmare for Disney to change her name now.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 10, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 10, 2016 ---
    There seems to be more and more info coming out now that suggests that there is something significant about Jakku (something that I have created a topic about a few months back).
    There is some kind of ancient secret held there that interested Palpatine. There was an Imperial research base. Lor San Tekka retires there.
    Now, I have always struggled with the notion of Rey being a Skywalker. It just opens up too many difficult questions to answer.
    However, it cannot be a coincidence that Rey is found on this most significant of planets, Jakku (Japanese translation: Evil).

    We are also hearing a lot of talk about other significant planets in the SW universe. Ahch-To being the place where the Force was discovered by a brother and sister. Jedah in Rogue One being a pilgrimage planet (perhaps due to Kyber Crystals and the power they offer) for followers of the Jedi ways. And so perhaps Jakku falls in line with this and has some connection with the greater story - perhaps there is some kind of dark side source here (as mooted in Aftermath) that is central to the sequel trilogy?

    Considering how Jakku acts as a magnate for just about everything and everyone in TFA - Lor San Tekka is there, the map to Skywalker is there, the Falcon is there etc, suggests that the Force itself is at work to counter whatever terrible secret threat lurks on Jakku? I'm wondering whether that power which allegedly imbued the brother and sister on Ahch-To with the power of the Force, also exists in some way on Jakku. I wonder if Rey's parents, who may have worked for the Imperials in the research facility or simply been nobodies came across this great power and it somehow transferred its great power into Rey?

    Luke Skywalker learned of this great power and perhaps discovered that it fell into the hands of evil (The Empire or Snoke) and sought discover its secrets on Ahch-To. Perhaps he is guarding the source of the Force on Ahch-To so that its supreme power doesn't fall into the hands of the enemy? Or perhaps he has discovered the Snoke is the brother and believes Rey to be the sister? Eitherway, Rey's power in my mind is down to whatever-the-hell-there-is-on-Jakku and the Force has gently moved all the main players of the saga so they end up on Jakku and eventually bring Rey to Luke...to train her and bring balance.
     
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    A) Not a Disney decision
    B) A name changes means Disney sells more stuff

    The brother sister thing came from a debunked source unless you have something new to share.
     
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