SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Exactly, Rey will be Luke's legacy no matter who are her parents. Interesting that even in Bloodline Luke being a myth already was a popular comment (Rey isn't the only who think about him that way), maybe they want to keep Luke as a myth even to us before VIII (What happened to Luke? What were his achievements? We will discover along with Rey).

questions before VII: Where is Luke? who is Snoke, Rey, Finn, Kylo etc
questions before VIII: What happened to Luke before TFA? What is Snoke's backstory? And about Rey's backstory? etc

 

Maybe they purposely kepy Luke a myth to protect him and the future jedi from being hunted down again while at their weakest (they failed, obviously). If he is Rey's dad, then she was a part of the cover up if there is any set up by Leia and all since the survival of the force and its teachings are so important. We will apparently have answers to Rey and probably Luke in VIII but it will most likely lead to even more of a mystery.

 

I can see why Luke would be referred to as a myth even early on in canon material, no just mentioned in the case of Rey in TFA. Like Rey says when Han explains what happened to Luke… Rey stands up immediately and say " So the Jedi WERE real…". I think Lia is on to something. The usage of the whole myth device could be twofold: one, Luke used that story to protect him, his family and students, and two, a propaganda tool for Post-Empire era and the FO to defame the hero Jedi.

Apart from looking for Lore and training Ben, maybe Luke a "fugitive" his whole life.

 

Honestly the minimal role for Luke in TFA, as JJ put it, was because it would overshadow the new trio of main characters/protagonists. I agree. With Han Solo not involved, aside from flashbacks, Luke and what he's been doing can be brought into the fold. Like with Han, it will tie kind of heavily in with Kylo Ren and their relationship the past 30 years, the part people seem to be fairly upset with.

Also not sure I like the idea that Luke is a 'failed' Jedi Master because of Kylo Ren's turn to the Dark. He has some explaining to do, but it will be done, either by himself or what happens in this next movie. I truly doubt Luke actually is hiding away because he's sad about Kylo Ren. What he's up to is practical and probably a continuation of the work he was doing before Ben Solo became Kylo Ren..

 

but as Han said :"Luke felt responsible. He walked away from everything". Sounds very much like a 'failed' Jedi master who is hiding on a planet and waits for a wonder to happen or a new hope to arrive.

 

Just to be clear... George Lucas' plans for Luke changed after developing the PT. It wasn't until the PT that Lucas fleshed out the whole Jedi Order and the specifics to Anakin's fall. The ideas he developed during that period changed his plans. After the PT Lucas had no plans for Luke to get married and the most likely story from George would have had been the Solo's having Anakin's grandchildren.

 

Quotes and claims

MH: Lucas has spoken to me about playing the Obi-Wan type of role in later episodes (1997)
MH: Lucas spoke to me about playing the Obi-Wan type of role in later episodes (2004)
MH: Lucas spoke to me about being introduced as a cameo in later episodes (2004-2005)
GL: Han and Leia settle down/get married. (2005)
GL: Luke doesn't get married. (2008)
MH: I think I could be playing the Obi-Wan type of role in these new movies. I assume the story is about our OT characters' offspring. (2013)
MH: I correctly assumed that the story is about our OT characters' offspring while the OT characters are in roles like Obi-Wan and Tarkin. (2014)
GL: My Saga was about the father, the children, and the grandchildren. (2015)
MH: Lucas spoke to me about being introduced as a cameo in later episodes (2015)
MH: I figured Luke would wind up alone like Obi-Wan in IV after the sister twist in VI (SDCC 2015)
GL: Tell me about Darth Vader's grandchildren, Abrams. (2015)
JA: You tell me, George. You made this story. (2015)
GL: I'm curious about Darth Vader's grandchildren. (2015)
MA: Luke was once in the Obi-Wan type of role in VII, but we bumped him to a cameo so that he wouldn't overshadow Rey - the main character. (2015)

Quotes from Kathleen Kennedy about George Lucas and story plans
Quotes from Pablo Hidalgo about George Lucas and story plans

 

you are really great in destroying all hope and excitement for the rest of the ST.

 

priceless. hahaha

 

I really think his leaving is a combination of feeling the responsibility and burden of what happened to the temple, students and Kylo (as his nephew and son of Leia and Han) as well as a precautionary measure to go back into hiding (time the unveiling of Vader as Luke and Leia's father) and seek out a new force knowledge as well as a new strategy for dealing with the FO and helping the Resistance.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 8, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 8, 2016 ---

Don't worry Nightangel. I think there's so much we DON'T know. Things could change sooooo much between now and next December 2017.

 

To build them up again here's a reminder to expect some deeply and profoundly satisfying answers ahead...

 

I think what Luke is really feeling when we run into him at the end of VII is the weight of having made the exact opposite decision from what he did in Episode V - choosing to hone and strengthen his knowledge and understanding with the Force rather than run to his friends aid whenever they're in danger.

That, for me, would be an interesting arc for Luke. As selfless as his decision was to run off and help Leia, Han and co., it was one that nearly doomed him. Not only did he fail, his friends ended up having to save him.

Now, don't get me wrong - Luke is MUCH more powerful this time around, but perhaps in his studies of Jedi lore, he realized getting directly involved in galactic skirmishes was what led to the downfall of the Jedi before.

This would apply doubly to Luke's current situation. The Jedi, numerous as they were before, were snuffed out one by one. Luke is now the last, and losing him would leave no one else to bring forth a new order. This point doesn't get stressed enough when talking about why Luke is in "exile." He is learning the lessons that Obi-Wan and Yoda lived before A New Hope.

And that doesn't mean there won't be a place for the opposite argument. Rey is there to ask for Luke's help and bring him to the Resistance. I can see her taking Nightangels position, which is a valid one, and even calling him a coward. Through Rey, the audience is having their same concerns voiced. "How could you stand back and let whole planets burn? Your best friend be murdered by your OWN apprentice? Your sister almost suffer the same fate?"

These are questions that I think SHOULD be played out on screen and will make for an interesting dynamic between our hero and our mentor. In the midst of this is when the Knights of Ren will arrive, I would imagine.

 

I've been reading some of these Rey-Kenobi theories. The potential evidence seems pretty thin to me but there's always some interesting factors. Here's a few I've come across:

• He addresses her directly by name in her vision (although living with that legacy saber for a couple of decades may give Obi-wan a strong connection!)

• And there's a few visual and narrative parallels on film. The classic SW unmasking character reveal:

• The fact they show up in time to rescue an endearing droid:

• They both access that legacy saber from wooden chests:

• Sneak around behind enemy lines:

• Lose a father-figure to a red saber:

• And of course they share a talent for returning light sabers to those moody Skywalkers!

 

Cool parallels. Now if she grows a beard in VIII then we will know for sure she is Obi Wan

 

A brand new storyline, that was the most important part of JJ's comments on the new media. And this is one thing people should be aware of when searching for ties everywhere.

 

i kinda agree @Bandini

until we see a trailer that gives us something to work on, and then the film next december... the relentless search for snippets/commentaries/interviews and decoding them to suit our own thoughts on the direction of story/characters is unfortunately going to continue.

plus.. it's fun !

 

I agree. Pointless - but interesting with a whole year to kill!

Bring on the "brand new" (we're ready Rian) but wherever there is SW there will always be "TIE's everywhere"!





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I disagree. Rey Kenobi is not pointless. And not only it will be interesting. It will be grand.



Because one of the most important, indeed crucial, relationships throughout the whole preceding films of the saga has been that of Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader. The potential of a story of their grandchildren is going to be profoundly satisfying. You'll see.



P.S. Also, I'm ready to take bets with all my cantina credits that Rey will turn up to be Obi-Wan's granddaughter.