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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. Bandini

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    Ok, KK is back.

    See you later.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 16, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 16, 2017 ---
    Did you notice that Rey doesn't know who she is and that everybody in the movie have absolutely no clue of who is the girl ?

    This is the real question.

    And you could meet with my parents, it won't help you much to guess who I am.
     
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    I'm inclined to agree with this.
    Her parentage is important in that it brought her to Jakku and the way it unfolded from there, what they did and less about who they *actually* are
     
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    Yes. The thing is, we do know who she is. What we dont know is:

    1. Who her parents are and what makes them relevant to the story
    2. Rey's life from birth to 5 years old
    3. Why she was abandoned
    4. Why she's so strong in the Force
    5. How/Why she's so closely tied to the Skywalker family

    If anyone wants to know who Rey is as a person...they get to know her. I don't think that's the big mystery. She isn't secretive and cagey about who she is aside from who her family is (and we don't even know, from the movie, how much she remembers about them).
     
  4. MagnarTheGreat

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    We have the Japanese flyer.

    (Which by the way Hidalgo tried to downplay on twitter. Either because it's the verboten future doesn't want to get into or this marketing plan he might not have known about until now.)

    Pablo Hidalgo: “[The Last Jedi reportedly includes the biggest reveal in Star Wars history according to the Japanese flyer] Spoiler: It’s a cookbook!” (May 16, 2017) “[Super confused as to why you’d signal there being a surprise. It stops being a surprise.] The surprise is there is no surprise. ” (May 16, 2017) “[I’m going to be honest. Almost everything I hear from the people MAKING it sounds good. But the hype machine turns me off every time.] A flyer no one knows about translated into another language is unlikely a major cog in the hype machine.” (May 16, 2017) “[Oh no! Gonna screw up Star Wars just 2 b flashy and ‘noteworthy’. PLEASE DON’T LET SCREW UP THE MYTHOS,,,, pretty please] Please try not to believe the internet and see for yourself.” (May 17, 2017)
    Pablo Hidalgo: “[Quick #StarWars? I know shocker can you shed some light on the Japanese pamphlet teasing the biggest truth reveal ever?] Beats me. I don’t know what that pamphlet is, who made it, what they know, or what shocks them.” (May 17, 2017) “[That’s a very good answer, not sure who made it, but your right it’s in the eye of the beholder, but with what you know do you agree? Is there a Revelation so big it surprised you to learn about it?] No, but you don’t know me or what I know so this answer has no value.” (May 17, 2017)

    Which leads into...

    We have the new synopsis.

    And...we have the Princess Leia: Royal Rebel bio published late last year (alluding to a missing history for Leia after ROTJ) :)
     
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    Do you think they'd try to make THE big twist a parentage shocker when that's exactly what most are expecting after "I am your father"?
     
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    I think the Japanese flyer is just a translation/cultural thing.

    I don't think the big shocker is really that.
     
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    I think the real shocker may be that Luke finds this statement to be false concerning the past Jedi and we all discover that they weren't who we thought they were.
     
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    What alluded to her having a missing history after Return of the Jedi in that book? I never read it, so I'm genuinely curious as to what exactly was in the book!
     
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    Sometimes I wish I was Pablo Hidalgo.
     
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    I think there are hurdles for Rey being a Solo (my first choice) or a Skywalker. They are similar; why isn't she mentioned in the film or Bloodline (if she is a Solo); why don't Han or Leia know her, why is she left as a subsistence scavenger in a hostile place. Skywalker adds the complication of leaving a great story (who Luke fell in love with) as back story.

    For either Solo or Skywalker some have suggested she might be thought dead. But that begs the why doesn't the force drop any hints to Leia or Luke. The other option is its a secret. Kylo reads minds. It is possible that Rey was hidden from birth to protect her. After the dark feelings Leia had about Ben and the warning signs that they sent him to Luke to fix. When there was another kid in the family she was not just hidden away by her family but they took the added step of hiding her from even there own knowledge. They had someone they trust take Rey and raise her as their own, but part of the protection was not even mom or dad knows where, because they worry the information could be read from their minds if they were ever captured. So like the "we thought she was dead," it kept them in the dark. This asks the secondary question why was she left on Jakku which is still a mystery. Also who she really is must be hidden from her. If she knows she is really the child of famous parents with death marks on their heads and people could possibly read her mind the safest thing is for her never to have known. Alternatively if this is part of the scenario maybe Han and/or Leia knew it right away but again for her protection from a mind reading session they never let on.
     
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    Maybe you were! ^_^
     
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    "It's another Death Star."
    "This was the Death Star major...THIS is starkiller base."
    "So its big. We'll blow it up, there's always a way to do that."

    "It's shielded."
    "We disable the shields."
    ....
    "Ok, we'll land on the planet, disable the shields, and take out their big gun."

    (Trench run with X wings and TIEs)

    ....

    You really think Disney/LFL cares about not repeating things from the OT?:D:D:D
     
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    Yes. If they want it to be a TWIST.

    Because SW had the biggest parentage twist in cinematic history.

    And if a particular story element is to be the subject of a twist, they wouldn't be working so hard to draw everyone's attention to it.

    A big parentage REVEAL? Yes. A parentage TWIST? Quite possibly the most predictable thing they could do in the ST.
     
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    Pablo is Snoke. You don't want to be Snoke.
     
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    Kathleen Kennedy: “I’ll dodge [your questions] artfully.” “Possibly [you can look forward to a shocking plot twist in The Force Awakens].” (November 6, 2015)

    Here's some of the things they withheld from the marketing and treated as a surprise.
    Han and Leia being married and separated.
    Kylo Ren being Han and Leia's son
    Kylo Ren killing Han.
    Rey being Force-sensitive.
    Luke hiding out on an island until the end of the movie.

    But to the hardcore fans, most/none of those things are a surprise. Lucasfilm considers them to be though. It's the same standard with TLJ.
     
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    Han Solo being killed by his own son is a surprise. I knew about it before the film, but I still haven't wrapped my head around it. I know we talk a lot about Rey, but I think RJ's toughest task is explaining why Ben would a) turn on Luke and b) kill his father.
     
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    Bingo
    Not all film goers and even Star Wars fans are like many of us on here. They will not scour for spoilers and keep up to date on every single thing and piece it together.

    Some people enjoy the surprise of it.
     
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    @MagnarTheGreat Thanks for posting those quotes for me! Those are VERY interesting.... ;)
    This is a really interesting idea, too. The difficult thing about finding a solid explanation for Luke, Leia, or Han leaving Rey on Jakku is finding a way in which they did it out of love, because none of them would ever abandon their child out of cruelty. I do feel like the fact that Snoke had been watching Ben from the beginning—and that Leia was aware of it—would make it more likely for them to hide Rey themselves. However, we know she wasn't hidden from birth based on the Force vision. She was about 5 when she was left on Jakku, unless you are assuming that the person that Han/Leia/Luke left her with at birth later abandoned her on Jakku. I do like the idea, though!
     
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