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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    288 vote(s)
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  3. Undecided

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  1. Plagueis 1138

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    They were also writing the script while filming the TFA. Abrams is known for creating a mystery box, which can make his films less rewarding on rewatch because it maybe gimmicky and unfocused, still very fun. But anyways, the only thing that is known are that Snoke, Rey, Kylo Ren, Finn evolved from GL’s treatments. There is a rumor that the one thing that remains true to Lucas’ treatment is Rey’s background but that is not confirmed.

    Also for everyone else, what did you think Pablo Hidalgo was going to do, spoil the movie? If Luke is Rey’s dad(very likely) then he’s not gonna say “Oh yea, yup ya got me.” He’s going to deny it. Khan, anyone?

    The belonging you seek(your family), is not behind you but ahead, and there is one person that can help you, Rey says, Luke. That is her father.
    Its a saga about generations.
     
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    Yet, one of the big parts of your Rey Solo theory rests on the fact that PH hasn't answered your questions about a ring. This is called cherry picking.

    Seems that PH is hinting that Solo is out of the picture.
     
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    PH doesn't "hint" anything imo unless it's in the form of a straightforward, unqualified, unambiguous statement. If he wanted to eliminate the Rey Solo theory, he would have done so straight-out, as he did with the Sabine+Ezra theiry. I say that with confidence because, imo it makes a hella lot more sense, and because it can be deduced from what PH has said/done thus far.

    And I say that as someone who feels that TFA rendered Rey Solo a near impossibility. *Still not debunked.*
     
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    Seems pretty straight forward to me.

     
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    Yeap.

    And completely consistant with my current ReySky theory :)

    At first I thought Luke never even knew about Rey, but someone pointed out something DR said that indicated Rey lost both her parents at the same time.
     
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    I don't think Rey is related to Luke or Leia.

    I really hoped for Solo for a long time.

    But I can't see anything about these quotes that actually say one way or another about who might be Rey's parents. Though PH implied Bloodline is relevant. But still even now that the book is out no one has posted a quite that "proves" the point. So there is enough not said by all sources to prove any point yet.

    Now I will say we have to come to grips with the fact TFA narrowed some possibilities or requires new information if she is related to Luke or Leia.
     
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    "Proof" = "Rey, I am/am not your father."

    I dont think anyone, no matter how emphatically or confidently they present their theory, is using "evidence" as a synonym for "proof"...
     
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    The problem is the "evidence" that is out there can be interpreted in more than one way. If you rely on KK statement about Skywalker saga or family you can infer that Rey is a Skywalker but those statements are still 100% accurate even if Rey is unrelated. That leaves the argument that the main protagonist must be a Skywalker in order for all of KK quotes to be true. While there is precedent for the main protagonist to be a Skywalker, nothing dictates that it must remain that way. There is also no evidence demonstrating that if the main protagonist is not a Skywalker that the Skywalker saga and family quotes are false.
     
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    PH has already said Kylo's presence is "sufficient" for "Skywalker Saga."

    But there is better and more direct evidence than "SW is about family/Skywalker Saga."

    And I don't believe that it's all fundamentally subjective.

    Or maybe it is. Perhaps we're living in the Matrix! ;)

    But again, since when was the standard "beyond any hint of a doubt"? When is that ever the standard? (Except in mathematics, I think. Specisl case.)

    One can accept that X Y Z is evidence for a theory *while legit still not believing in the theory.*

    Acknowledging conflicting evidence =/= saying "your theory is right and mine is wrong."

    I think things get heated in part because of blanket dismissals of evidence presented that at least deserves to be directly addressed by those who disagree.
     
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    Rey Schrodinger until the mystery box is opened she is can be considered both Skywalker and not Skywalker.
     
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    Schrodinger's Jedi! :D

    Oh lordy THAT would be a plot twist ;)
     
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    I've said why many times, not going back through this thread. It's not unsupported at all. They(Disney) are showing anyone can be a hero. The connection is the force. Plain and simple.
     
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    I've said this before, but because of this tweet Pablo will be the greatest troll in the world if Rey ends up being Luke's daughter.

    "Someone who's upstairs"? Where does Rey go to get to Luke? Up a boatload of stairs! Luke literally is "someone who's upstairs". :p
     
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    If I'm a betting man, I say that Rey isn't Luke's daughter. I just can't imagine him running off and leaving his daughter... even if it was to seek out truths in the Jedi temple. Also, up to the point where the massacre at the academy happens, I think Luke is proceeding in the footsteps of Yoda and Obi Wan and a philosophy of non-attachment (ergo he wouldn't have had a child).

    I won't be upset if she is, but with all the misdirection they do, I thought for sure she was at first...now? I just doubt it.
     
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    Then if you want to disagree with a particular theory-post, have the decency to link to what you previously wrote instead of going "Nuh-uh! And if you want to know *why* just sift through my post history!"

    XD
     
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    IMO there's no way she's Luke's daughter. In-universe evidence aside, Mark and others joked around this topic too much for it to be true...

    Storywise making them related would be too simple for my taste. Simple and far-fetched at the same time, if that makes any sense... No offence to supporters of this theory, but to me it would seem like a cheap reveal. I get it that family is a major theme in Star Wars, but not everyone has to be related. I think it's more likely that she's the daughter of Luke's first students or something like that.
     
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    JJ Abrams is really a great director for siblings/cousins interaction.
     
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    Most of the audience seems to have agreed with that statement :) So yeap, JJ did a fab job.
     
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    EVeryone on them or their leadership? Thats what I was getting at. I'm sure The Republic higher ups, their friends etc... know. But does Snap or Ello Asty?
     
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    To be honest I wish Rey didn't have a mysterious past and that she is an orphan with a last name. There are so many ways to give her a strong arc than making her past so mysterious and who is she related to. If she is related to some legacy character (Skywalker or Kenobi) then they better make the reveal satisfying. If she is some random force user, then they should have established her with a first and last name, so we don't have to waste mental energy and time on is she/or isn't she a SKYWALKER.
     
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