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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  1. TheBBP

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    Not when you consider how smart he has been about handling spoilers. He knows that we read into everything. He's not going to hint at anything, especially in a media interview.



    Makes zero sense to wrap up the Skywalker Saga with Not Skywalker saving the day.
     
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    Ben Solo-Skywalker will save the day.
     
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    Ben Solo is one half of the protagonist.
     
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    That could very well be, but that is a lukewarm (no pun intended) way of continuing/finishing the Skywalker Saga, especially when Leia never has carried that name. In the old EU nobody considered the Solo twins as Skywalkers.
     
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    In the old EU Luuke existed.

    Just saying.
     
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    What does that have to do with it? My point is that until folks wanted to ship Rey and Kylo, nobody ever considered a Solo offspring as the extension of the Skywalker Saga.
     
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    What's more important to be a Skywalker: the family name or the "blood" ?

    If Ben is Force sensitive it's because he's the grandson of Anakin Skywalker.
     
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    The whole mess with Ben is because he identifies himself with the Skywalker part of the family if he just wanted to be like his dad the galaxy probably wouldn't be in as much of a mess as it is right now.
     
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    He's Vader's grandson. That's the important part.
     
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    My point still stands.
     
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    Depends on who these people are you're referring to. The definition of "The Skywalker Saga" is fluid. The story-groups line is that the saga films have to be about the Skywalker family in some way. Make of that what you will. But I think Vader's grandson being one half of the protagonist is enough.
     
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    i agree, Ben Solo is more than enough Skywalker to carry on the torch.

    also @TheBBP , i think that people were probably expecting a Solo torch bearer; not only is that the only couple in the series post-Anakin, but Luke, as a Jedi, wouldn't have necessarily had children due to the Jedi code and all that.

    i, for one, was fully expecting a Solo/Skywalker child.
     
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    Don't forget, the Skywalker's may have been the main characters in the entire saga yet they have never been 'in control' they have always been guided, led or influenced by someone else.

    Anakin had OB1 then Palpatine
    Luke had OB1 then Yoda.
    Kylo had Luke now snoke

    So it may be a case of that cycle being broken and having a Skywalker lead and influence the events by guiding someone new ala Luke and Rey.

    Maybe its time for the Skywalker's to take control of their own destiny and stop following age old rhetoric and make their own decisions re the force and what is and isn't right. Rey could be the legacy that Luke leaves behind if he is to go down this road.
     
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    i love this idea and i absolutely think this is where it's going.
    but for Ben, not Rey.
    Rey is the person who's going to demonstrate to him that he can choose.

    but not to rule. i don't think they'd ever put a Skywalker on the "throne" (as it were) because ultimately Star Wars is still a world in which democracy is held in higher regard. Ben and Rey may even take power, but my guess is that they would redistribute it more fairly in some way than how it was seized after the Empire's fall.

    i dunno. i'm kinda spitballing here. part theory, part wishful thinking perhaps.
     
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    Yeah Ben could definitely fit that scenario. Rather than being a ruler (don't think I explained it very well lol) I meant more master and apprentice. So far Skywalker's on screen have always been the apprentice and have been influenced by someone else's teachings.

    I think Luke is obviously done with the old Jedi order as it was. By training Rey I think he will impart his knowledge of the force not the teachings of the Jedi. Which in turn leaves a legacy for Rey to carry on. Ben could definitely be a part of this however I'd like to see the new generations of 'Jedi' go forward under the guidance of someone new. So the torch is well and truly passed on.

    It would make the name 'Skywalker' truly legendary (not that it isnt already) within the GFFA. The family who destroyed, resurrected and reshaped the broken, narrow minded Jedi teachings into something practical and relevant and then walked away. By not maintaining a position of influence or power within the new order they gain the most credibility. Similar to what maximus' story in the gladiator would have been if he hadn't died.

    Anakin started it (in his own way) and Luke finished it. It would also be particularly symbolic if Ben plays a large part in achieving this as well. Then you have the Jedi's story reflect anakins (or the Skywalker's for that matter) Rise, fall, redemption and legacy.
     
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    I don't remember much of the speculation leading into TFA that was going deep about the offspring of Han and Leia. Over at TFN the bulk of the speculation (the largest threads by far) was about if the new main character was Luke's offspring.
     
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    i like this. i wouldn't even mind if it's Luke (and then Ben and Rey) who are doing the imparting--so long, as you said, it's the knowledge and not the Jedi "teachings" per se. i mean, i feel like there has to be some amount of philosophy attached to it no matter what, but i agree that it's a torch passed without baggage (much as Luke had, really--Obi-Wan and Yoda kinda tried to structure him, but he did, in the end, make up his own mind what was right).

    and i totally agreed that they don't belong in the power structure (which, i think is why Luke walked away in the first place after RotJ). i don't think that was the wrong decision at all--it makes sense for the characters in terms of his own personal journey with the Force. it will be really interesting to see how he tried (and ultimately failed) to impart that (and why), and then to see how it will succeed with this new/additional wisdom gained throughout TLJ. : D
     
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    LOL, there is a good chance that every one of our opinions will be rendered to be silly a week from tomorrow.
     
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    whoohoo! : D
     
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    One of the best things about getting to finally see it is that right or wrong, we probably will be able to put most of these debates to rest.
     
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