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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Lukee1811

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    Same for me. I'm on a roller-coaster when it comes to Luke's possible parentage of Rey. I'm on my fifth opinion change...
     
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    At this point Im just happy to be here with no final answer to this question. :)
     
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  3. master_shaitan

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    :D
     
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    Thank all that is good and holy that even though she's not a Skywalker there is no Rey and Kylo romance.
     
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    There was for a brief few shirtless moments...
     
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    Well, the truth was underwhelming to say the least.
     
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    Why? This is such a backwards view. The reveal was perfect for the story that was told. Why oh why do people just want the same crap regurgitated time and time again?
     
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    That is if what we are told is the solid 100% truth from the source who tells Rey.
     
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    It wasn’t just about what Ren told her - though he wasn’t revealing things to her, he was voicing what she knew inside. It was also about how she interacted with him when he had his shirt off, with how there was again no hint of a past between her and the legends. And Snoke even explained why she is the way she is. People really must let go now.
     
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    This is exactly what I was thinking.

    Whilst I think it’s interesting that Rey’s a Random and all, which I really don’t mind, why can’t Rey see them in the mirror of the Dark Side well? With Han Solo’s words about Ben destroying the new generation of Jedi actually ringing true, could Ben/Kylo’s narrative as to who Rey’s parents are be the untrustworthy perspective of this trilogy?

    I’m caught between a rock and a hard place here. How do we know that Ben’s telling the truth? How in the galaxy would he even know something like that in the first place?

    Man, I need this second viewing now...
    I think people should feel free to talk about this for the next few weeks, if I’m honest.

    I don’t see who else she could be, and think that she’s a Random now regardless, but I don’t think that Ben/Kylo’s words should be treated as the be-all-and-end-all just yet, in the same way that many had reason to doubt the reveal of Vader being Luke’s father.

    I’ve only see the film once, but my gut reaction was certainly that the cards have been played in such a way that there might be something else to it. I really do need to see this film again.
     
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    This for sure.



    Rey crying about it does not make it real only that it's real that it upsets her to hear what she is being told,she is being told something on a very emotional subject for her and given her wish to see who her parents were in the dark side "cave" under the island and being not shown only amplifies her reaction if she is believing Ren's telling of what he says he saw.

    Vader's statement to Luke whilst eventually (after the three years between ESB and ROTJ) proven true was not based on some force vision but even so was questioned all that three years.

    I was never in any particular camp as far as who Rey was or was not.

    Rather musing that Ren could be lying cause let's face it - he has a stated agenda "let the past die " all of it and it's easy for him to try to palm off Rey's parents as trash so she can let "the (read her) past die" whereas he did not kill off his past in the form of Leia when hew could press and button and do so.
     
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    The whole thing in the cave was Rey looking for answers - but the point was that she already knew the truth but didn't want to admit it - that's why she saw herself at the end of the line, behind the "glass". Snoke even explains that she is a no one and that her power is a reaction by the light side to the rising Dark Side (Ren). It would be ridiculous for them to suddenly reveal in IX that she is a Solo or Skywalker after what happened. Sorry, it's done.

    Ren was simply speaking what Rey knew. It wouldn't make any sense for him to lie - he'd know Rey would see through it. She was connected to him. She'd know if he were lying - that's why she knew it were true when he told his events of what happened at the Temple.
     
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    Completely agree. Also connected to that great scene at the end with the little boy and the broomstick. Btw, who are we saying that kid is now. Kenobi, Skywalker, Palpatine? Has to be one of em
     
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    Ha, indeed! It's the birth of a new story. Amazing story.
     
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    ...but I literally just said that it’s nothing more than a possibility, and I’m firmly in the camp that they wouldn’t twist this back around so that she was a Skywalker or a Solo, because I agree: it would make no sense.
    To each their own, but I think that you’re projecting your own thought process a little bit here. All I’m saying is that there is a distinct possibility - however small - that Ben was lying, and there are plenty of reasons for him to lie in that situation. He’s literally telling Rey that she’s not important to anyone but him, to make her feel wanted: it’s the exact same reason that Vader came out in Empire and told Luke that he was his father, to sway him to his side.

    Let’s not forget that what Ben said about Luke was true, to an extent, but only from his point of view.

    Like I said, I really do need to see this again. It’s a lot to take in, and you could be completely right and that could become blatantly apparent to me upon a second viewing. I’m just saying that my initial, raw gut reaction is that Ben/Kylo isn’t the most trustworthy source to hear this from, especially in this moment specifically when Rey is all that stands between him and the throne, in the same way that Vader wasn’t a trustworthy source for Luke to hear from. :)
     
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    No apologies needed to me from you thanks though.
     
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    It seems to make there's this space royalty vs. nobodies. The film is about people who aren't special. The kid at the end, Rose, and Rey. The Jedi is bigger than one person or the legendary Luke Skywalker. It funny after all the "it's time for the Jedi to end' what we have is that it's time for the Skywalkers to end. Pass on what you have learned.
     
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    I thought the same. This revelation made sense with the story, but I think it could have been more and better explained than it was.

    The impression I had after seeing TLJ was that RJ tried to close the very ambiguous story that JJ wrote and the "parents issue" was one of these problems.
     
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    part of the reason i take this piece as truth from him is because he's projecting so intensely. this is the part of her that resonates with him most deeply: the feeling of being discarded, unwanted. and yes, a lot of that is projection, but i feel like it comes from a strain of truth that underlies their connection.

    i'm going to watch it again and continue to absorb and process. i agree with you: this was a lot to take in.
     
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    People want her related because her parents being non force sensitive, and her being as powerful as a Skywalker as a random IS a plothole in the context of established mythology of the force and how users train with it.

    People can rationalize that away all they want but it TRULY is a plot hole
     
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