Jumanji tops The Last Jedi over holiday weekend.

They certainly will. They will be using the film as an example to Filmmaking students on how NOT to a make film. It will be a classic in that respect.

 

Says the guy that didn’t get that Leia was tortured in ANH.

 

What is wrong with this guy? Another BO thread, really?

Once again...62% is a normal drop! Spider man homecoming had it, and literally most front loaded blockbusters expect it. It's modus operati for Disney at this point. It's still projected to make 700million plus, more than R1.

Can people go on the financials thread, or the backlash one?

Edited. Talk about the post, not the poster.

 

TESB..comparisson with TLJ.....

By opinion od many more apropriate comparisson is Phantom Menace.

http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/12/22/mayor-long-beach-polarizing-star-wars-the-last-jedi-review/

 

Update deadline have released Friday figures and have an updated one at 27.1, % drop revised to 59% margin now.

 

I am not going through this again.

I will watch it again later to see I can spot the scene where she is being tortured. Is there lots of blood ?

 

Just keep talking, pal. You’re proving my point for me.

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Look at Empire original reviews and box office takings. One guys misinformed tweet means sweet F.A.

 

Can we please not debate this here, considering what happened last time?

Make a new thread or Skype or something...seriously, this is a BO thread.

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It's second biggest domestic opening ever, and people are exaggerating.

62% was an estimate, it's already down to 59% with some measurements. (Scratch that, that's a 3 day measurement).

Edited, as above.

 

Its already behind Jurrasic world.

 

You can't compare Friday-Saturday-Sunday to Friday-Saturday-Sunday-Monday. It doesn't work like that.

 

It's like TFA, it was the first film in a property in a long time. Insane "see Jurassic world/Star wars in ten years angle".

Jurassic world 2 will be like TLJ, make less than the first.

 

Why are we even talking about this? Is this some magic form of verification for people hating the movie? Like they did with ESB?

 

Maybe I am? I'll check. Still, 62% isn't bad.

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I'm just arguing because some a people are arguing "TLJ is failing this early u guis".

 

If you look at the amount of drop off between weeks one and two for most "tentpole" films these days, it's somewhere near 50-60%. I think it was in the BO thread that someone noted the drop off from week 1-2 for several films. Yes Magnar posted it: Spider Man (almost 70% drop off); Age of Ultron (60% drop off)

Magnar did the math and it looks like TLJ will do something like $600-$700 million, give or take (go look at the BO thread). That's a fantastic number. RO did over $500 million, also a fantastic number. TLJ will EASILY be the number one box office film of the year. Will it surpass TFA? Of course not. But this film is a bit more difficult (as it's more cerebral, less action packed).

It seems that, no matter what, we just can't get away from the negative Nancy's of the Star Wars fanbase. I can imagine the fume that will take place come May with the release of Han Solo!

 

It's going to over 700 million or around it. Bo buddies think that still. Reason being Xmas can be HUGE! for this film, or just huge! Either way, pretty good. Going to be great watching the heads of those who want RJ to fail, implode.

 

what makes you think disney hoped for the lesser box office of the force awakens? Because decennies before, the sequels always made less? The phantom menace was a huge hit, but did the fans really loved it... We all know the answer , no, so the sequel made less.

A new hope, was a movie, a single movie... People didn't expected a sequel at the time. Now TFA unlike the phantom menace was well recieved in majority ( looks at the audience rating, to compared to the phantom ) and two years later, there are some haters, but it' never been a backlash like we are seeing today.

We are in a time where sequels makes more ( unless the movie is a failure , see justice league ).

it's been years now that disney sequel ( marvel ) makes more money than their first one.

They litteraly gave a new trilogy to Rian johnson even before the movie was released, so they were 100% confident about their movie huge succes.

And now they will be happy with the last jedi being just between rogue one and TFA as they expected that?

For a sequel with the return of luke skywalker? For a sequel that will be the last movie for carrie fisher, since she ( unfortunately passed away ). For a sequel of of successful first movie!

so now they'll be happy it made a bit more than a spin off... Really?.

you all sound so sure , it was disney plan to make between 1.2 or 1.6 billion only. I'm not really sure it was the case.

I don't think you can affirm this was not a possibility for Disney. And they are disappointed. Even if the movie is far from a failure at box office.

 

Marvel is special because they release films in "waves". Heck even 2-3 films a year sometimes. Star Wars films are more scattered, at least for now. ROTC made less than TPM. It's normal. See Jurassic world 2 make less than 1. Heck even kingsman sequel made less than 1.

Not really even sequels, but the second film making less money than the first, IX will have a final episode boost.

Yes they did, or should. 700-750 million is great, it's still 200 million more than R1 and it had second biggest Dom opening of all time. That's not s little bit more, it's a lot more.

 

We'll never really know, will we?

If ep9 ties up loose ends in a way that disappoints those who love TLJ but bring back some of those jaded fans, or if it continues and keeps pushing our ability to suspend our disbelief, there's really no way to measure that or know how much influence money or fan reaction impacted those decisions unless they have a press release over it.

All we know is that they won't de-canonize this movie (that'd be stupid, and that's coming from someone who really doesn't like it). But whatever decisions they make for the next installment, we won't know their thought process, tough I'm guessing there's be some snarky comments saying I told you so regardless of what they do.

SW is too big to die. Even if they hadn't done this move now, they could have finished off the trilogy and took a similar chance on the next one. There might be a few 10s or 100s of millions at stake, but when you're talking about movies that make it past or push a billion with relative ease, that doesn't matter quite so much and a lot of factor can be thought to contribute to the loss (or perceived loss).

Put it this way, had they rehashed TFA, had Luke fight and possibly die in a battle with Snoke, had Kylo deliver that final blow and Rey be instrumental in that battle, things would still have been fine, and maybe some fans aren't as angry. If Leia had instead been a force general, somehow showing her manipulate the force from the bridge and never have that Marry Poppins scene, you lose no fans and keep the remainder. You still get the shock value of Snoke dying early. If Rey found out she was a Skywalker or Kenobi, still, I don't think anyone would have blinked and no fans lost. It would have still made money hand over fist, and continued to do so. The fans who like it now would still like it and the fans who are discontent would probably still like it (pull back a bit on Luke igniting the lightsaber by young Ben). Tie in Finn's story to the main story, maybe Leia take Holdo's place and less GOTG humor.

Do you really think those modifications would have lost any fans? Even the new ones? I don't think so, maybe it would have been less surprising, but with Snoke demise in the second installment and the apparent death of Phasma, fans would still be intrigued.

 

the sequel do less when the movie is bad... Seriously kingsman 2 is bad... ( to my opinon ) same for jurrassic 2. And jurassic it's another time period , it's not a 2010 and + years movie...

Kingsman 2 had not the star wars momentum behing it , and the movie is meh.


the true exception are the transformers movie or the fast and furious saga... The movies are meh, but it 's working no matter what.

Everybody said bvs was a box office failure because it didn't make the billion, but it was almost there, it didn't only 126 millions less.... Than the billion.

 

Has the fact that this is a longer movie been discussed? I’d be less willing to take my son again because he needed a couple of toilet breaks.

Also what was TFA up against? I reckon Jumanji could take some business away.

Even so, the numbers a yuuuuge and I can’t see the issue here. TLJ is a success at the BO and with critics. WIN!