Jumanji tops The Last Jedi over holiday weekend.

Yeah, I think others have pointed out AOTC made less than TPM, but I don't think that stopped Lucas from ever considering canceling ROTS or anything like that.

 

Here’s the difference as to why ROTS was more appealing to the fans then Episode 9 despite backlashes from both movies (AOTC & TLJ).

ROTS was telling the final piece of how Darth Vader came to be so even if you didn’t like TPM or AOTC, there was a curiosity as to how he finally fell to the darkside.

There is no hook to Episode 9 for fans who didn’t like TLJ because it’s essentially rebooting the Trilogy as they Resistance/First Order and Rey/Kylo are back to square one

This is why Episode 9 will make less then Episode 8 and will be the first SW Trilogy where each movie made less then the previous movie.

 

i laughed at that one

 

Unless you time travelled from December 2019, you can’t know that.

With PT and OT, the 3rd episode has always made more than the 2nd and less than the 1st.

TLJ is projected for 1.5$ billion. A great number and 700$ million domestic.

 

Of course it’s just my hypothesis of Episode 9, but I can tell you that the buzz reminds me of what happened to The Walking Dead (I won’t give any spoilers). Season 7 was VERY controversial and different and split the fanbase and the ratings plummeted for Season 8 about 40-50% because some fans never came back. The Walking Dead WAS the water cooler talk every Monday before Season 7 and now there is no buzz among my friends and co-workers now because too many people felt burned.

Now I have continued to say that the SW franchise will never die and Episode 9 will make big money, but I think many fans felt burned by TLJ and that just enough to effect Episode 9 buzz and I believe it will be the first final Trilogy film to make less then the middle film.

 

Tv isn’t movies. Disney is targeting new blood anyway. Younger, bigger audience. Who knows what they’ll do...

 

They are targeting new blood? Then why is the next movie about Han Solo, a character who most resonates with the OT fans? Why was R1 their first movie, which dealt with a plot from the 1977 movie? Why have the Center point of marketing Episode 7 Han Solo? Episode 8 Mark Hamill? And if Carrie hadn’t passed, she would have been a focal point of marketing for Episode 9?

Sounds to me they are focusing on OT fans since they bought the franchise? Now I agree they should focus on new fans but that’s not what their first 5 movies were written for.

If they wanted to move on from OT fans they could have given Han, Luke and Leia cameos in Episode 7 and then moved on.

 

ST is a handover. They are killing off old characters to focus on new ones. Star Wars is so huge they are milking the legacy of it, and trying to give a new generation their own trilogy.

 

Dude... are you serious right now? What the hell do you think happened when Vader rolled a torture droid into her cell, the camera zoomed in on the syringe, and we cut to Leia's terrified expression?

 

Oh btw (because someone has to)

 

Shouldn't we be comparing TLJ's performance to Rogue One? Right, thank me later.

 

So the Friday numbers came out and The Last Jedi only made 24 million yesterday.

On the 2nd Friday:

TFA: 49 million
R1: 22 million

Can we all admit now there is a backlash against TLJ and it goes deeper then internet fanboys.

 

well like in numerous times i have said, is pointless the comparisson with TFA since TFA was the first movie in 10 years since 2005 and was a movie that fans have been waited, a sequel to the OT for 32 years, so there was more hype for TFA than TLJ (third movie of lucasfilm in this new run). Everyone was expecting TLJ not doing the same numbers than TFA

 

No One is saying it should do TFA numbers, but with the return of Luke Skywalker it shouldn’t be struggling to do R1 numbers who had an unknown cast.

Fans like me who hate the movie are not going back and repeat business is what drives the Box office after the first week.

 

Interesting reading that deadline article although I knew LTJ is around 30% behind TFA I didn't know it was 25% ahead of R1

 

there are other variables like kids are not out form school yet, and christmas week. With or without a fan backlash, frankly I do not think the numbers would be dramatically bigger than they are (maybe a little bigger or marginally bigger), the sequels usually do not do as well as the original movies, you have the case of AOTC and ESB, which could not surpass their predecessors.

 

There is a backlash amongst a minority, a very vocal minority, of fans who want to complain to complain. but day on day the Last Jedi is up what, almost 40% from the previous day. Total of $321 million domestic take. In 8 days. Already passed Thor (I didn't hear anyone call that a bomb). Gonna be the number one film domestically this year. Yeah, you are right. Huge flop. Bomb. Star Wars is over.

 

Nobody is saying it’s a bomb. We’re talking in the context of a SW movie, this movie should be doing better then R1 when you have Luke Skywalker as the main sell.

 

for me it's useless and hopeless to compare with ESB that did less than a new hope... Seriously, in the 70/80 es the only way to watch a movie was to go at the theater... Not a lot of people had a VHS players either . There was no netflix when the movies can be watch easily if you didn't watch it to the theater.

The star wars movie , when release in 77, nobody knew at the time , it was the first of a trilogy... either. It's a complete different times! it's impossible to compare the two circumstances. in 2017 everybody can access to the previous star wars movie, including the last one TFA, in 77, you missed the star wars at the theater, good luck to catch it again... VHS players cost a fortune at the times , not everybody could have afforded one. And people didn't even expect a sequel. Completely different circumstances.

as for the phamtom menace, did good because it was such a long time since a star wars movie came on theater! but it wasn't that great....So naturally when AOTC came , it decreased and it decreased because AOTC was actually worse than Phamtom menace.

So yeah TFA did really good and everybody had easily access to watch it in different medias... it didn't suffer from a meh movie like the phantom menace was... So the last jedi should do more than TFA.

Because TFA was well recieved , unlike phantom menace, because the audience after theater released has easily access to watch it ( unlike a new hope vhs rarity, that was no part of the trilogy when released.... ).