SPOILER Luke SPOILER (Also Ridley, Driver, Lupita, & MvS)

Word of god says it was a hologram recording of her execution, it confused me too

 

The listing of the Inquisitor's race being able to live for hundreds of years.

 

The Bane encountered by Yoda was not "Bane", it was a dark-side illusion manifested from his fear...

As for Unduli, one can only speculate at this point, but I would think that it was only their presence that was felt, with no consciousness tied to it.

 

The lifespan of the inquisitor's race. That may increase his chance of being around in the time period of TFA.

 

But we already have "confirmation" there will be no inquisitors in VII... which, of course, doesn't necessarily mean anything...

 

Is there a source for that confirmation, Tidmadt?

 

One of the earliest rumors was about a group of Jedi hunters

 

I believe the answer to this is tricky... Someone in the past mentioned that we would not hear this third party referred to as The Inquisitors but they are clearly meant to invoke them.

Also, almost nothing is confirmed. Trust no one! Just a bunch of people claiming so and so was right once or twice before, so they're somehow 'confirmed' as it's the closest we have. But again, that's likely 65% bantha poodoo too.

 

Viral... and whatever his sources are (I believe)

If memory serves correct, when the first images of the Grave Robber surfaced, there was much talk of it being an Inquisitor... the word came back (again, if memory serves) that whatever the baddies might be called, they would not be called Inquisitor

 

Thanks guys.

 

I recall a fairly definite confirmation of no inquisitors in at least Ep VII, if not the whole ST, as well.

 

Is this who MvS' character is based on(please don't tell me it's Legends and not canon and he's dead... I am aware, thx):
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Montross

Also, Montross... as in Albatross?

A metaphor for a dead weight or burden that one must carry, especially when the burden is not a literal one but a stigma of some kind that one cannot easily discard or throw off. The name comes from a story about a sailor who killed an albatross that was following his ship, an act thought to bring bad luck upon the ship. His fellow sailors made him wear the dead albatross around his neck as penance to ward off the bad luck.

 

No idea if this is relevant, but here, might be: "Legend of Montrose" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Legend_of_Montrose / http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1461/1461-h/1461-h.htm

I've been pondering the Montross angle, too. I mean, another image is called Zorro but no one has hypothesised that there will be a character actually called Zorro. There, it has been assumed the title is a clue (at best) to a feature of the character. Grave Robber should probably be viewed this way, too; and so, I think, should Montross.

So at best, MvS (if that is him) will be 'reminiscent' of Montross who, after a very brief bit of research, seems to be an EU character who was a second option for the DNA template of the Clone Army. So, a rival of Jango's?

(I'm sure you know all this, Willybobo--sorry, just typing aloud...)

If the Montross character is MvS then we're looking at someone of very mature years who is keeping his body going by cybernetic augmentation. Immortality has already been cited as a clear goal of the Sith and, without 'magical' (re: Force) means, augmentation is probably the next best means of achieving this. We saw that with Grievous and Vader already.

So where am I heading with this? Well, wild speculation territory again, of course!

Could MvS be playing one of the last of the Clones, battling off his 'accelerated growth' programming by slowly replacing himself with cyber augentations? Perhaps HE is obsessed with Vader, because that more-machine-than-man personae served Anakin so well? Or perhaps he's even Boba Fett, whose own body is scarred and aged following his slow digestion in the... no, of course not! That's not true! That's impossible!

For now, MvS as a Clone cheating death works for me. The Montross reference is a steer toward Jango.

EDIT: the more I think about this, the more I like it. A Clone with cyber augmentation would make MvS an amalgum of both sides of the Clone Wars: a Clone-Droid. This would make him the perfect (poetically speaking) mouthpiece for a retrospective (expositional) evaluation of that and subsequent conflicts from a purely neutral point of view. The old soldier who has come to see that the war was a nonsense, that both sides were manipulated, lied to and exploited. Which is, let's face it, so often the case....

 

Just finished reading most of this thread you guys are fantastic. I got to thinking a bit about Luke and his fear of his own strength. What if Luke started to remove his own body parts to limit his connection to the living force and became the rumored cyborg and he became a Vader like figure voluntarily ? 400 days left my friends!

 

Welcome Caligoru! Wow, that's an interesting angle... Self-hate taken to new heights... Curbing his power because of a rising darkness or fear of it occurring by chopping limbs off... Seems nuts but if you were a shut in for a decade with thoughts of daddy haunting you, you might be inclined.

Think of Michael Jackson... He adored his mother and hated his father, so much so that he had countless surgeries to remove any resemblance to his dad.

Good stuff! Now imagine finding a part of Luke... If he is indeed the ultimate weapon, a limb of his would likely be far more powerful than Vader's helmet. I hope Luke has an incinerator.

Also, what if there's a nutjob who somehow gains leverage over Luke via potential harm to a friend/family member... Then keeps Luke in exchange for their safety... Then proceeds to 'experiment' on Luke, limb by limb, in some bizarre quest to tap into the Force via flesh.

 

Do you think we'll be able to buy severed Luke limbs in the Disney store?

Yeah, welcome Caligoru. I like the 'idea' of Luke trying to rid himself of his biological heritage, too.

 

A character named Montrose was first mentioned in an early draft of ANH as a science officer on the Millenium Falcon

 

It also gets at Robo-nocchio territory in an unexpected way. A clone trying to be human. But not a little boy, the exact opposite in fact.

 

Haha. Insert Yoda flesh quote.

 

I know at present we've been lead to believe MvS/Montross isn't a large role, albeit a significant one; but the last of the Clone Troops could be a very touching character. Imagine, to have been one of millions born to be one of millions with a common destiny, and then to be the last. Alone and unique, void of purpose. No wonder he's drinking and rambling his life away. And no wonder he becomes lucid at the mention (or on remembering) the Jedi. Perhaps this guy somehow got isolated during order 66 and, by the time he got back to 'civilization' the war was over, the Clones were obsolete and only he was left to work out how he and his brethren had been bred to conduct a massacre. That weight of guilt and responsibility would foreshadow Luke's own misgivings perfectly because Luke is kind of in a similar place. Oh, this film could be so very, very dark....