SPOILER Luke SPOILER (Also Ridley, Driver, Lupita, & MvS)

Could the voice in Driver's head be Luke's? We had the 'remote cyborg' theory; influencing Driver is the same principal. Having overthrown Palpatine, Luke has become the puppet-master; although his motives are unclear. Why would a Jedi be encouraging a wealthy Imperial to hunt Sith artefacts AND track down young Force users? That would be one hell of a cliffhanger question to end the movie on!

 

Hell, this train is too good to not ride 'til the end. What if Luke is puppet mastering someone (maybe Driver, or Domnhall, or a clone/cyborg) to find these Sith artifacts in order to destroy them. Twist: the thing Luke is commandeering becomes influenced by the artifacts... becoming evil... well-intentioned Luke goofs... has to come out of hiding to defeat that which he created... (Could be the dark Luke/clone theory)

 

That's good, Willyboo. So Luke is assisting in the discovery of Sith artefacts with the intention of destroying them but is keeping that part of his plan hidden. He is allowing those acolytes working in the field on his behalf to believe they're working toward some other end: perhaps resurrecting Plagueis (perhaps not).

Luke knows that he is central to the Imperial plan, but--rather than seeking the artefact(s) himself and destroying them--is allowing it (or them) to be gathered so he can foil the ploy completely in one fell-swoop.

In the background, Leia is aware only of the Imperial imperative and opposes it. When she discovers Luke is assisting in this she naturally assumes Luke has turned and hails him public enemy number one. Luke's exile was as much about keeping his involvement secret from Leia (and the others) as it was being able to machinate without detection. Luke has gone rogue, forced to work alone in order to keep his plot under wraps--or perhaps assisted by Yoda and a CGI Obi-Wan (voiced by MvS, has anyone considered that?) whose place in the caper is only revealed at the very end of the movie, or even withheld until EpVIII--and is beginning to break under the pressure of his destiny.

 

Haha. This thread is a powderkeg strapped to a rollercoaster. Soooo good.

 

Luke could be doing to the Empire and Sith collectors what Palpatine did to the Jedi.

 

I wasnt really talking about a new third order, more like the aristocrat hiring people to do stuff for him. But also i would prefer if they stay away from flashbacks because the OT needs to exist as the OT we dont need people adding more stuff to those movies. In any case, if they want to tinker with the OT comics are prolly the medium to do that. and besides Inquisitors are established now it doesnt make sense to do a flashback to ESB to further establish them.

 

Here's a thought: what if Luke went into exile because Leia foresaw his death? Or so she thinks. But it turns out Luke planted that thought in Leia's head so she would allow him to go into exile?

 

Before this Wild Mass Guessing train picks up too much steam, remember that Viral has listed three separate sources that discuss Luke going into self-imposed exile because he fears his own power and how it could destroy the galaxy. I love seeing you two creatively come up with some pretty interesting stuff, but somebody has to keep you grounded.

 

I agree. But they're only established to those who follow SW outside of the movies, and that's not the majority of the audience who'll need to be won over by this film enough to want to see two more.

If the Inquisitors are present at all, they'll need to be explained and explained well. It will also need explaining why they weren't around through Eps I-VI, and the flashback may serve this purpose. I also think exposition on this may be provided by MvS or the aristocratic collector character.

 

This will be a movie the average Movie audience will understand.
Luke is the lightside version of Palpatine and his only apprentice is Leia. Leia may be a lot like Palpatine also. So he goes into seclusion and Leia secretly trains Jedi while also working the political angle. If the Galaxy does not know her to be a Skywalker and Luke's sister, or even Force sensitive, then she will not be suspected as a Jedi Master or Jedi Trainer.

 

See, I think we already know the "inquisitors" as we've seen them in the OT. They are the Imperial Guard and the Emperors advisers! They were always such appealing and intriguing texture characters they deserve - no, DEMAND an explanation. I think were starting to see part of their story unfold in Rebels... with the Inquisitor, of course; but also in the Empires MAJOR interest in force sensitive children. Even The Clone Wars touched on this. Palpatine has always clearly disregarded the rule of two, just watch the PT... So I think these new Jedi Hunters have been around all along. I think much of the 3 decades between films has involved these zealots and Luke's battle with them. I don't think they will depict this backstory in TFA with flashbacks because we already know it in a sense as fans, and newcomers wont be so eager for an explanation as we are - so long as the story is coherent. That material will be left for all the other collateral media like comics, novels, cartoons and perhaps a spinoff or two!

 

I hope JJ corrects the character flaws of the Skywalker twins in this trilogy. If you really think about the big three from the OT only Han was really in control of his destiny. Luke really didnt do much and Leia did even less. I hope to see a badass Luke (he didnt win a single fight in the OT- Han saved his ass, Vader kicked his ass, He beat Vader then Palpatine kicked his ass and Vader saved him).

 

Meh. NOTHING STOPS THIS TRAIN!

 

Anyone remember "Masters of the Universe" end credit scene? When Vader threw Palpatine down "the wishing well" there was immense power that was released. If Jin, Obi, and Yoda can still manifest in the physical world then nothing is holding Palpatine back. Believe that concept art that was leaked of the masked Sith with the longsword saber is Palpatine. The EU may be non-canon but will be dipped into.

http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Suvorov_Palpatine

 

The thing is surviving as a Force Ghost is something only Jedi can do, also discussed at my Dark Side/Sith Thread, where I go into the whole Buddhist/Hindu connection. Basically because the Sith refuse to to trust in the Force and instead try to extend their life are unable of rejoining the Force at their death.

 

What about Darth Bane and him releasing his "force ghost" to try and take over his apprentice's body in the dual of the "Rule of Two"?
Will head over to your thread for some reading.

 

This is part of the EU and may or may not be canon anymore.

 

Now the ghost of Bane that tried attacking Yoda in the CW series was just an illusion but why manifest it self as Bane? In Rebels the Inquisitor uses JM Unduli's remains to project an image of her. Now was that the Inquisitor puppeteering her force or just some projector displaying a hologram? Opens a whole new door on the powers of the dark side if they can control the power from the remains of force users. Back to the Graverobber looking for the remains of Vader.

 

How is that picture a possible tie in from Rebels to TFA?

 

I think he refers to the "They can live for hundreds of years" line.