SPOILER Luke SPOILER (Also Ridley, Driver, Lupita, & MvS)

Sorry, this might be a stupid question but Im new to this and havent read a great deal on here yet, but what is it thats giving people the idea that Luke is either crazy or evil? Cheers

 

A few months ago, a rumor ran saying that the big twist of ep. 7 would be that Luke is evil. The source was apparently reliable, which made everyone go crazy over the rumor. In retrospect though, no one actually believes it. It's just a rumor and since it involves our favorite hero turning evil, it was almost "I am your father" type of huge.
But it's most likely false at this point.

 

Not sure if that holds any ground. Look at what JJ did with Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. My wife really enjoyed the movie (She hasn't seen Wrath of Khan).

 

People who were early on talking of were GBRIELYGRY, Kyle (alleged crazed Luke concept art in a confrontation with Han and Adam Driver's character), and MakingStarWars.

By the way--this is extremely important and I need people's input--it was that link of Kyle's that was the first time it was publicly alleged, yeah?

 

I grew up watching the OT films and I've loved JJ Abrams version of Star Trek, both the original and the Abrams versions of Star Trek are great in my mind. I'm confused as to why there is so much hatred among the fan base of something that has made Star Trek relevant again. It makes zero sense.

I think that 'The Force Awakens' is in good hands with JJ Abrams and Co, and I am certain Luke won't be evil, he won't be perfect, but he won't be evil.

 

I always thought the rumor was that Luke trying to stop something bad from happening, and tries to or does stop this bad something a bad way himself.

 

I loved the movie but basically it disregarded the entire series and movies in favor of the reboot. Instead of Captain Pike being Spock's former captain in the pilot of the original series, it made him the guy who recruited Kirk in the first reboot movie. In the original series, Kirk acknowledges he's never met Pike, and Pike is essentially a vegetable who could only answer yes or no questions. It's stuff like that. Just repurposing characters and rewriting back stories. Not a huge thing, because I think Star Trek needed the reboot. Star Wars is so far beyond Star Trek, even now, but it gave the franchise a much needed BIG couple of movies.

 

Yes. Mizzlewump said "Luke saves the day at the end, but in a bad way; he has changed" on March 31, 2014. Didn't exactly say he went full-blown darkside and he saves the day by a bad action.

 

I wouldn't say that. Some people get wrapped up in some of the characters. Look at the threads when some one suggested that they might kill off Han.

I think having Luke become a bad guy would be really hard to pull off.

- the story would have to support it really well

Sorry, I should have elaborated a little further.

I also grew up watching OT and the original Star Trek films.

I also loved JJ's Star Trek 2009 reboot. It was a jump in the right direction. Sure, there were things here and there that I personally would have changed. But overall very satisified.

Star Trek Into Darkness - I felt the all the Actors did a fantastic job. I felt the plot was weak and didn't support the Khan story line at all. Benedict Cumberbatch is a fantastic actor, but he's not Khan. He was cast in the part because he's the latest fad. Hollywood is going the throw him in every single movie they can.
Also, the last 15-20 minutes of the film ruined the entire film for me. To take the entire ending of another film and swap a few characters around is just extremely bad, lazy writing in my opinion.

 

About the Khan casting bit, they actually looked at a couple of actors before Benedict Cumberbatch, for example Benicio Del Toro and Damien Bichir; I think they wanted people who felt more like Ricardo Montalban from the Wrath of Khan, but eventually they went with Cumberbatch.

 

I think Damien Bichir is a fantastic under used actor. I'm not a huge fan of the Bridge, but he plays his part very well. He might have played a good Khan, he might not. I feel it's extremely hard to play a bad guy in movies. More so than playing a good guy.

Don't get me wrong. Benedict Cumberbatch is a fantastic actor. But I'm going to get sick of seeing him very soon. Just as I have with Samuel Jackson, Nicholas Cage, Denzel Washington...just to name a few.

I'm all about using lesser known actors to play parts. Look at the cast of the OT, they made their fame from star wars.

 

The bridge is/was frellin' (Farscape reference, NOT an undecidedly clever way of bypassing the filters) good show. And yes, I know it was based off a Danish/Swedish series. The reboot worked for ST ... but I'm sure JJ isn't going (to risk getting tarred and feathered) by any SW fans with a reboot. Disney has already (gonna piss ppl off) writefully wiped the previous canon. Look, I LOVED the NJO, but ... the story waa not monitored well enogh

 

I don't remember the rumor actually saying he was evil... I remember it saying people didn't know what he was doing, and questioned it, and some that he was the Warlord, but I always took it that it was a throw to the audience to give them a twist. Crazy yes... I remember that, but the only "evil" was speculation off the rumors... people assuming that if he was the Warlord then he was evil... I spec'ed that he could be doing things that people perceived as evil but doing them for a good reason, batman vengeance style

I also remember that he "solves a problem" in a way people aren't going to be happy about

 

Well the rumor said that "Kira" (as she was then called) wanted to find Luke Skywalker to vanquish an "evil". However, she goes to the castle and sees a cyborg, and when it turns around the cyborg is revealed to be Luke. In the words of the rumor: "The evil [Kira] sought to vanquish with the power of Luke Skywalker, is Luke Skywalker."

Of course, after this, we got some less-ridiculous rumors about Luke being too powerful for his own good and going into hiding, etc.

 

Just because she goes to defeat what she thinks is evil doesn't mean that it is evil... obviously, since she is hugging the Grave Robber in the concept piece, she finds out that her certain point of view may be a little off...

 

I've been trying to track down what the real origin is of the idea behind Luke vs. Han.

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