SPOILER MakingStarWars Rumors and Speculation Thread (Part 1)

The thing I've been thinking about with Skellig is that only Hamill and Ridley were there, what if Skellig isn't evil castle and is actually the exterior of the academy? The scene with Rey could be her and Luke there at the end of the film. What if the shave is for the flashback and not the end of the film? We end on bearded Luke

This is sober speculation this time, but still if I'm going off somewhere crazy again someone reel me in

 

I suggested earlier maybe Luke plays a Yoda like role where Rey finds him near the middle of the movie and he offers advisement on whatever the situation is she is dealing with and then she returns to him later at the end of the film.

I don't think they shot at Skellig for more than a few days and the filming set up looked really basic from the photos that were taken.

 

Couldn't there be a scene where someone explains all the previous info between the movie without a flashback a la Obi Wan explaining what happened to Luke's father?

Just simple: "So what happened to Luke?" "He opened a Jedi Academy where all the force sensitive children he could find could train to become jedi. That was before Ren showed up. He slaughtered them all and Luke was forced into hiding."

Wouldn't that suffice?

To be clear I'm not against having a flashback I just think in this case it is unecessary.

 

I think if the vision/flashback happens it will be to illustrate something we don't quite understand from the info we currently have. There is something that is really bothering Rey about the situation but it isn't clear what. I think the flashback would only be 50% about Luke and the other piece we are meant to pick up from it is either about Rey or Kylo Ren and it's more than just " Kylo killed everyone".

 

i think the whole thing is basically about rey

 

Clan I think is whatever Rey was born in to

Seven I think is going to be somewhat boring, it mention them "looting" they might be pirates/raiders Kylo Ren hired. Or hey they could be the Third Order I've talked about before, who knows?

 

Yeah, I mean I'm simplifying it for the sake of the post but if done right I am totally okay with having a flashback but only if it is the only way to explain certain things about the story we couldn't otherwise find out in a simple way.

I need to remember. JJ Abrams is a great director and a visionary. He knows how to use a flashback and I do not because I don't make films for a living.

#InJJWeTrust

 

It illustrates what Luke was doing and why he left.

 

Still, there would be no action involved in such a scene, so there would again be no place for stunt doubles. Luke is probably going to have at least one crazy fight at some point in the movie, and I think he's probably going to be the main event in the climax of the movie. Everybody expects that and everybody wants that, and Abrams and Kasdan are probably very well aware of this.

 

I think that does make sense for the story with Ren being a former Jedi who joined the ranks of this "Seven" after their leader is killed or something.

I'm starting to think they're not going to explain everything from between ROTJ and TFA because they're planning more spinoff movies in that era.

Just my opinion. I wouldn't mind there not being explicit descriptions and depictions of everything that happened before TFA. I'd like a little mystery. That's what made the big "I am your father" reveal so amazing and iconic.

 

Saving Luke for the rest of the ST and building up to his step back into action is a better sure fire way to keep a large desire for people to see what happens with Luke in the trilogy. I wouldn't mind it if Luke is inactive in TFA if he is going to whoop ass later.

We have to remember this is just the first episode of the new trilogy we are going to be left with a lot of questions and desire to see more of something.

Note how the OT was a slow churning story leading up to one real main event. Luke taking down Vader and the emperor and how the PT was shuffling characters in and out and though Palpatine was the consistent villain it was a lot of jumping around. Slow and steady wins the race.

 

Making people wait another few years to see Luke really do something would just piss them off. Besides, the sequels really belong to Rey, Finn, and Poe; the current film is purportedly intended to mark the transition from the old to the new.

 

If Han dies and no one else does Luke and Leia will be back for VIII. If Han is a supporting character and dies and Leia is a supporting character and Luke is barely in the film I would say we see a TON of Rey, Finn and Poe. I don't think Luke hanging back would really cause outrage. I could wait for Luke to show what he's now capable of in VIII if it makes the story better. Maybe Luke does some fighting in the flashback/vision sequence though who knows.

 

If Luke is running the academy, why can't he defend it? Was he not there?

 

Was Kylo responsible for the dead bodies at the academy? If he was an apprentice, what caused him to supposedly turn to the dark side?

 

I don´t know about flashbacks. It´s not really a Lawrence Kasdam, neither JJ style. The usually explain the story through objects and clever exposition (Think about Raiders of the Lost Ark or Super 8: They told the past story through the two FBI talking to Indy and Marcus, with an old big bible. In Super 8 you have the objects -the weird squares- and the old films with the professor working with the alien). So I would think they´d explain these type of things through objects and clever expositions. It fits better with their style.

 

I don't like the idea of flashbacks in Star Wars either. It's about being active in the moment and propelling the story in the present as much as possible.

JJ's Star Trek 2009 used flashbacks for young Kirk and young Spock.

 

First scene of Star Trek the Motion Picture (JJ) is kinda a flashback, isn't it?

You beat me to it!

 

Yeah, that´s true. Although that was an origin story. I don´t know how that would play out in Star Wars. Let´s just hope they know what they´re doing. I just want this movie to be fun and to have top quality, whatever happens in it!

 

It's more of what happened first then flashed forward to "present" time.