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More things to cry @: Han & Luke didn't reconcile

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by FN-3263827, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    Luke: "But Haaaan I'm not a kid anymore !"
     
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    Lol I am not the only one!

     
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    wow. hahaha ~ i guess it is a thing. jeez.
     
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    Then I guess I'm edgy ...
     
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    I recognized it too, it looked like both are estranged.
    Han Solo looked angry/furious when he spoke out Luke's name.
    (I know him line) (I suspected the following sentence "and I don't like him" afterwards)
    I guess no, Han looked angry and spoke about Luke like a stranger.
    He don't said we are friends or were once friends.
    There was a sad undertone and bad-tempered vibe going on.
    Maybe I misinterpret it, but that is what I thought during the screening.
     
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    that's what i heard too. and later, he refers to the "people who knew him best" as if he wasn't one of them. he deliberately distances himself from Luke.

    it's very sad after all they've been through.
     
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    A bit old to him to be calling him that(han)(luke)
     
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    He called alike a kid at 19, too
     
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    Your referring to Finn right, off course, anyway if they did reconcile years before TFA then must have been on good terms where they knew they would not be another time.
     
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    I didn't take as Han distancing himself, as it was hiding how close he and Luke were. Because the next thing Han does is talk about the Force! And you see that glimmer in eye, and a slight smile, remembering probably the best times of his life. He's hurt and angry, but the anger isn't the driving force (pardon the pun) in what he is saying or acting.
     
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    I meant Luke in ANH...meesa thinkin' that if they had never reconciled, they would have hugged and been their normal selves around each other but might have maybe slapped him around and called him a nerd herded but it looked to me as if they both thought that they had time to talk things out after he got back .
     
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    great point. i think he has a lot of regret. i still see anger or bitterness there, but that doesn't undo the love he has for Luke. they may have even parted on bad terms, but he doesn't hate Luke. he hates the circumstances.

    i guess when i say "distancing himself" it's more about wanting to buffer the pain, if that makes sense?
     
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    Yes, that definitely makes more sense! I think regret is the greatest emotion coming through when he talks, and you see the anger and bitterness, but that's because of his nature, and he knows it's pointless.
     
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    He's just grumpy like Harrison ford lol .
     
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    awww man. i'm going to miss him sooo much.
     
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    ...until he shows up in VIII ;) .
     
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    Only Leia calls him "nerf-herder" hahaha. Luke is too nice to do that. (luke)(leia)(han)
     
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    Wasn't that shininess talking about ?
     
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    I also share in this observation and tend to take it further in my mind with respect to how Han Solo is there in space just at the right time to regain the Falcon and Rey.

    It was either the sheer will of the Force orchestrating these events and/or Han and Luke had something between a plan and an agreement with regard to Rey and Jakku when the time came.

    In another thread (Who opened the door for Rey in Maz's basement?), I wrote:


    I see Han Solo's disappearance as paralleling Luke's. Everyone (Han, Leia, Luke) seems to have reverted, going back to what they knew best, but I think Han and Luke not only had time to reconcile but also the reason, the will, and the means to act together after Ben's fall.

    Han Solo's final act, crossing that bridge, getting Kylo to remove his mask, touching the face of Ben in such a silently redemptive manner seemingly to "help" his son made for a powerful series of moves that ultimately placed Kylo in such as state as to be beatable emotionally by Rey. Kylo was even distracted enough to be unable to stop Chewbacca's shot (comparing this with Poe's stopped shot at the start of the film).

    I would like to think of this partly as Han Solo also helping Luke one last time: it was just like (in A New Hope) Han Solo, after we were lead to believe he reaped his monetary reward and left, soared back from the stars in the Millennium Falcon to fire off a couple of fateful shots from above, which took Vader by complete surprise and gave Luke the extra breathing room he needed to focus fully on completing his mission: "Great shot, kid! That was one in a million!"

    Luke, as of The Force Awakens, was perhaps powerful enough to have known this would happen (i.e. Han's fate with Ben), and perhaps even warned Han Solo about the finalities ahead. And I could just see Han smirking back at him. "Luke, you know me: you never tell me the odds."

    And then perhaps Han parted from Luke, disappeared from Leia, against his will, so as to protect Luke's mission, and waited nearby under the guise of his old smuggler identity until he received word the Falcon was near and Rey was in it.

    The way Han regards Rey is especially interesting, as if he knows but cannot say.

    Hopefully there is something to that, and our favorite characters did find a way to work together in ways more substantial than The Force Awaken leads us to believe.

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