Official Captain Phasma TLJ Thread

i see what you did there ~ hahahaha

 

If you think it through, Phasma could not have "taken down" Han and Finn within the existing story. Han Solo was an old man and Finn still had to have been formidable enough to face Kylo Ren in the last scene. To have been "taken down" by Phasma in the prior scene would have diminished that.

I agree that Phasma was shoehorned in and didn't have anything meaningful to do. She should not have been used as a gag and have just willingly taken down the shields. I think the character is tainted from that. Hopefully TPTB can come up with a way to redeem her.

See what I did there?

 

Well, that whole Finn vs Kylo fight was strange anyway. I don't know if Kylo was toying with Finn or not there. But really Finn shouldn't have been a match for him. Likewise, if would've been great for Phasma's character if she was shown to be highly dangerous. The excuse could be that she took Han and Finn by surprise but simply not strong enough to take down Chewie.

Perhaps she will repent and live in exile with Ben Solo?

 

Oh damn. Freudian slip.

 

THIS.

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GC has proven herself more than capable as an actress and Phasma's role tapped none of her talents. The keg is still quite full. The questions that I have moving forward, why did Kylo Ren need Phasma to provide the command to execute the villagers, when he just whacked their leader all by himself? How long does re-conditioning take? What does reconditioning mean? Why was she back on Starkiller base when her division was aboard a Star Destroyer? Who handled the shields on Starkiller Base while she was away on the mission to Jakku? Why was a lowly shiny Captain of the guard given full access to the planetary shields in the first place? Is she also in charge of sanitation? Is she more loyal to Hux or Kylo Ren?

Obviously, we were led to believe that Phasma was meant for a meatier role than Boba Fett, but some of this just seems stupid at worst and cobbled together at best. I don't want to hear about time constraints, either. Not after watching Rey go to the counter for food, twice. So far, she's little more than Lady-Fett in chrome and that is disappointing.

 

you have this backwards ~ she asks for his orders.

though elsewhere it's stated that technically Ren has no actual authority over the military arm of the FO, though nobody would refuse him.
if anything, it's weird that she asks him what he wants to do.

my guess would be Hux, but you're right, the chain of command is blurry where concerns her. though her title is "Captain", she seems to occupy a higher position than that (as if she were a General, for example), as she seems to have a wide reach over various aspects of the operation.

to be fair, the two times Rey goes for food does illustrate points about Plutt and about Rey's circumstances, so it's purposeful. and Phasma is not going to get precedence over the hero. she literally was a late addition to the script and not handled well, but i agree that Christie's prowess will encourage Johnson to make sure she's well-used in the next installments.

 

The point I was making is she didn't need to be there, since we didn't see her do anything during the attack and he's already killed with impunity.

Hence my cobbled together comment.

True. But its still redundant. We could have just as easily seen Rey walking away from the outpost complaining about the rations the first time and then see the inner workings when she shows back up the next day with BB-8. It wasn't a time issue in my eyes.

I hope u are right. I hate wasted characters.

 

The way I saw the shields scene is that she felt there was no way that taking the shields down would make any difference and her statement that "you are making a big mistake" was a threat. She felt that their efforts were futile and by making her do this (she saw no point in sacrificing herself needlessly) they were just setting themselves up for some extended torture sessions instead of mercifully getting a blaster bolt to the head.

It was mentioned earlier that overconfidence always gets the bad guys in trouble, and it was even a small nod to Palpatine and Luke's exchange on the DS.

"Your overconfidence is your weakness."
"And your faith in your friends is yours."

 

oops ~ my bad ~ misunderstood your post.

i hope we don't see any of the FO wasted. i want to see them bring back Mitaka and have him grow a spine, i want to see Phasma be badass, i want to see Hux make a power-hungry insane attempt to become Emperor. it would awesome if they clued in that they were working for Plagueis and all decided to attempt to overthrow him. i want to see some serious crazy go down.

probably won't get it on that level, but yeah, i hope all this cool stuff isn't just wasted in a big Resistance vs. FO space battle in which stuff blows up.

 

She could be court-martialed, jailed, punished, and either escape the First Order prior to execution or be exiled from the First Order for her treachery. Then, she reappears offering her help to the Resistance, yet the audience is purposely lead to be wary of her -- Is she really trying to get back at the First Order or is she trying to get back in their good graces by double-crossing the Resistance? --We won't know for sure until later in the movie.

 

How could the First Order know that Phasma lowered the shields? All the evidence has been atomized.

The question(s) I have is: How in the kriff did she get out of the trash compactor & off of that frozen rock?

 

YEAH!!! RIGHT ON!!!!!!!

 

If you go to my long post in the Phasma thread in the Force Awakens forum, I explain why she was a late addition and hyped up in the marketing.

As for now. They could pull a reverse Boba Fett with her. He had a great showing in ESB and then an embarrassingly bad one in RotJ. They could do the opposite with Phasma.

She does have somewhat of a purpose. She's stoic compared to the megalomaniac that is Hux, the wrathful Kylo Ren or the nonpareil Snoke.

She'll be on Hux's side. Because unlike Kylo, Hux doesn't like to get his hands dirty. So he needs someone out in the field to direct his orders. His proxy.

 

I have thought for awhile that she might be Snoke's side deal. He set up that she would lower the shields. With Starkiller destroyed along with the Republic planet, it leads to the whole he-feeds-off-chaos-in-the-galaxy thing.

 

Maybe there is a system that shows everyone's log ins from all over the galaxy in one central database .

 

I think the biggest problem with the whole Phasma was the trash compactor joke. That was shoe horned in more so then the character and not really needed. That is why see is seen as a joke. The rest can be explained quite easily. She was ambushed by a Wookie. I don't think that diminishes her prowess any. As mentioned above, she turns off the shields because she sees no real threat from 3 individuals gains a whole base of stormtroopers as even demonstrated by her telling them that troopers will be coming in short time. She is arrogant and chooses self preservation. She sees no way that they are going to be defeated. If they just would have ended the sequence with Chewbacca knocking her out, instead of the trash compactor joke the scene would have been better and she would not seem like a joke.

There is definitely a chance they can make her more formidable in VIII. It will. I'm interested it see what they do with her.