Official Finn Episode VIII thread

uh...the Force?

 

Facts, but hey let the black guy take an L because it’s ok to them, and many others, but if it was the other way around there would be an outrage that they would listen to

 

There's something that's awake inside of Finn LOL. Again, Rian said Finn was literally going to find his strength... what strength would that be? He's already covered strong ethics and courage in TFA. I have to assume it will be something else.

 

When this trilogy is over, and if Finn doesn't become anything more than support, then there is going to be criticism. Maybe not at first, but eventually there will be. There are far too many questions for Finn's back story not to be explored. If we can see these things. Others will be able to see it too, and it will be real hard going into another trilogy with people of color playing support. No one is going to believe the hype twice.

 

It's going to be interesting to see the characters Rian creates for the new trilogy

 

Depending on what he's done with this movie, I hope he's prepared when the questions start coming at him rapid fire. People will get real direct and honest with him if this movie ignores Finn's story.

For a lead character, Rey generates very little interest on her own on forums. Meanwhile Finn's pages are further along than hers. As a character people find Finn more interesting. The forum pages speak for themselves.

 

Unless there's some sort of post-movie panel or something, he won't have any questions coming at him that he has to answer publicly. So it's not like it would matter anyway. Even if they did have a panel, no one that attends them seem to have any serious questions about Finn in the first place, except that one guy that asked the editor about the bait and switch after TFA. The most we could hope to get is a response to a tweet here and there. Meanwhile, he's going to be off planning a new trilogy leaving Finn fans with a bad taste in our mouths with no expectation of anything getting better because we'll only have one movie left. As Rayjefury always, wisely points out in regards to a potential force reveal in Episode IX, that's not enough time to do anything significant.
Almost forgot, any explanation we could hope to get publicly would very likely have to come from Kathleen Kennedy herself and with her seeming complete lack of interest in any character outside of Rey I doubt we would get one in that case.

 

"Women always find out the truth... always".
Han Solo To Finn

"A boyfriend? A cute boyfriend?"
Finn to Rey

I was watching TFA today and these lines stood out to me. Much is made of Finn and Rey now being like brother and sister. And maybe ultimately there is no romance between them, but it was certainly not what was alluded to. Another interesting parallel. When Finn and Rey initially try to flee Jakku, a TIE fighter blast sends them flying. Finn is unconscious for a moment but the minute he wakes up he looks to see if Rey is alright. He does the same apparently in TLJ. The romance angle wasn't just a "glancing blow". It was alluded to pretty strongly. Later when Finn is captured by Rathars Rey is highly emotive in her attempts to save Finn, and when she is trying to convince him not to leave for the Outer Rim.

Also during the scene where Finn is about to leave for the Outer Rim on Takadonna, we don't just hear screams we hear explosions. I'm not trying to re-ignite the Takadonna Scream debate (mostly because I think it's a foregone conclusion that we hear and see what we hear and see - they can choose to take the character a different direction now, but it is NOT what was alluded to in the first movie) but it's pretty clear what we hear isn't from the Cantina. Don't bother debating me on this LOL. I'm serious though.

I am going to re-question the value of the riot-baton and melee battle of Storm Troopers in general. The frequent talking point is that Finn did so poorly with the LS because he's not used to it, what is the Storm Troopers excuse for not being better with the riot baton? He had been trained in his weapon he should have wiped the floor with Finn immediately (since he wasn't trained in LS).

Also I keep watching how Finn swings the baton at Phasma in the TLJ adverts and Finn's using both hands. Then I watched TR-8R and how often he swung the baton as though it was a sword and it's hard to make the connection that this weapon was so much different than a LS. If anything, the LS should have been easier to wield for Finn.

Just some observations. Also Leia refers to Rey as "the girl" when talking to Finn before the mission to take out SKB. There's an awful lot of data creeping up suggesting that Rey isn't a Skywalker

 

Not just Rey. Rose Tico, Paige Tico, Leia, Commander Holdo, and Captain Phasma. All of these women are featured and will stand out. Even if for a little while.

 

That's not true. Ever since before TFA, KK has also talked about interest in Kylo too. Lol.

 

too bad we can't see well the last jedi finn's card rating .

 

Just to add, they are also marketing Rose in Singapore as well

 

The cause of the Resistance is one that matters deeply to Han Solo and Rey? In what movie is this? LOL. I will grant that Rey does insist that they get BB-8 to the Resistance but she's thinking about Jakku and then linking up with Luke to figure out what's going on with her Force Powers. Didn't see a whole lot of deep commitment to the Resistance. And Han? That one kind of speaks for itself.

Question though, why is Finn only rated a 7 for attitude? What am I missing?

 

he was rated 7 in tfa, he got an 8 it seems on the last jedi cards.

 

I'm starting to wonder if maybe they took on more than they could handle with this trilogy. We have Finn who was taken from his family like all the other troopers. Right there is a great story to tell. We can get into their heads, and find out who they are, and actually look at them as human beings. Instead we are getting a story about understanding Kylo and who is Rey, and what does she mean for the rest of the Galaxy. It seems the stormtroopers have become cannon fodder again which is a shame. I just don't understand the story they are trying to tell overall. There is no way all of this can be wrapped up in three movies.

 

Finn as a character is much more interesting to me than Rey. Too bad, because I fear Finn's story won't be developped much. I mean , it takes two movies to tell if he decided or not to join the resistance ( and there is no suspens , he will ). I think it 's a waste for a potencial character.

 

I have the oddest feeling that Rian Johnson is not really interested in Finn as a character. I doubt that he will ignore Finn, but my gut feeling is telling me that he's not really interested. I only hope that this will not reflect on the movie screen.

 

In some ways this story seems to be coming off as elitism. Look at the characters we are supposed to concerned for. Luke, Kylo, Leia, and Rey. All of these people have power, and our questions are about them, but not one concern for those who do not. The stormtroopers.

 

It does seem like something that might take 2 trilogies to fully cover, if they were going to do that it would probably make sense. I don't think the next trilogy that Rian Johnson is doing will be a continuation of this ST. I think they might let some time go by (the amount of time it takes to finish the next Rian Johnson trilogy) and then pick back up with the Rey story (or alternatively the Finn story) after they've had some time to physically age and they can do a legitimate time jump. The Disney machine is going to churn out a Star Wars movie every year bar none because they make money, so if they do a FS reveal of Finn in Episode 9, I imagine you'd see the follow up in a future trilogy (so yeah we'd all have to wait like 7 years for the pay off.

It's the marketing campaign. The actual movie may be better, but if you are forced to go by what you see thus far from the marketing arm, it's hard to get excited about Finn. If you are excited for this movie, I suspect you are either a Rey fan, a Kylo fan, a Luke fan, or a Rian Johnson fan and you just have faith in his ability to make a great movie.

 

To be fair, according to Pablo Hidalgo, the conception of Finn was made long after Rey and Kylo were created in the development process. When Kasdan suggested they make him a stormtrooper.