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Official Finn Episode VIII thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by romall smith, Feb 10, 2016.

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Finn Force Sensitive in Ep VIII?

  1. He is not / will not be Force Sensitive

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  2. He is / will be Force Sensitive

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  3. Does not matter he dies in Ep VIII

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  1. romall smith

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    There is talk of him being in a relationship with Poe. It is possibly the reason why they did the rewrites and removed his love interest. Rain Johnson has tweeted out the finn /poe gay drawings from fans as well . Although the argument against that is the established attraction to rey.no one is saying he can't be Bi or Pan but truth is in Hollywood you are usually gay or straight (the masses struggle with those sexualites as is lol)

    these are taken from the novels. It shows a clear attraction of finn to rey.
    “It was perfect!” Rey told him. It was silent in the lounge for a long moment before he murmured, “Why are we…”

    “Staring at each other? I don’t know…”

    The need for possibly uncomfortable answers was obviated by a series of insistent beeps from
    Finn had wanted to say something more before realizing anything he could come up with would be worse than superfluous. Better to leave it as it was, he told himself. Clean break, no scene, no yelling and shouting. He went with the members of the alien crew, pausing at the hall exit to glance back just once. She was still walking away, not looking in his direction. Just as well, he thought as the doorway closed behind him.

    That was what he told himself. But it was not what he was feeling.

    “Beebee-Ate says that you saved him.”

    Finn eyed the droid. “It wasn’t just me.” A slow smile spread across his face and his eyes twinkled. “Tell you all about it sometime.”
    Running to Finn, she threw herself into his arms. Neither could hug the other hard enough or long enough.
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    Whatever the Wookiee had uttered caused tears to well up in her eyes. Having never found himself in such a position before, Finn was unsure how to respond. Knowing well her inner toughness, he wondered what Chewbacca had said that could have inspired such a reaction.

    “What’d he say?”

    She sniffed and wiped at her face. “That it was your idea.”

    If he had been unable to find the right words with which to respond before, her reply, combined with the look she gave him, reduced him to a state of temporary aphasia.
     
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    While I've always considered Finn and Poe's dynamics as Luke and Biggs on steroids, Finn's infatuation with Rey here feels to me like a modernized version of Luke's infatuation with Leia in EP4. Small chance of them being related this time, though. :p
     
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    Why wasn't he portrayed to be force sensitive in Force Awakens? Maybe the writers haven't decided whether they wanted to make him so yet.

    Why do they put that joke in? See answer one. Plus according to the original trilogy that seems to be exactly how the force works. So I'm not sure if that was fully intended to be a joke or not.

    He was always intended to be a stormtrooper which was his job. All of the stormtrooper's had similar duties when they weren't training as stormtroopers. Being a stormtrooper was his job but sanitation was just a duty so he wasn't really a janitor in the sense people keep implying he was.
    How do they intend to introduce this to the story?
    The possible hints as well as the coma in 7 seem to be their to provide an opportunity to do so in 8.
    When he shows up to train...
    What exactly would be wrong with that?
    Is Rey clearly annoyed. ..?
    Why would she be annoyed and what room would she have to be annoyed, she's not a Jedi herself yet?
    They're good friends I'm assuming she would be happy for him. Besides, she "stole" some of his shine in episode 7 and most people aren't complaining about that.
    How would that service the story?
    It gives him a purpose and a reason to fight besides chasing after Rey. It keeps his story as the co-lead interwoven in the main plot. It could easily and potentially help explain how he broke his conditioning etc rather than going through boring exposition.
    I can't think of a single reason...
    You mean like all the people pushing for a gay relationship between Finn and Poe despite the lack of evidence for it and the clear evidence against it? At least the force-sensitive Finn theories potentially have legs at the moment. See all of the hints discussed in this and the other Finn speculation thread.
     
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    The Finn Poe ship thing is weird to me not because of a gay relationship, just that I've been on a few Finn Fan sites and I rarely hear that brought up. Most Finn fans argue for his inclusion in the heirachy of FS users and thus being a part of the main light vs dark side battle while still fighting with a light saber. Others who "like" the character feel his FS ability would ruin Rey's story arc and that non FS actually makes Finn cooler, and a storm trooper rebellion would be interesting. Or There are people who are non bias and also fans that could care less as far as FS or non FS, as long as Finn is kick ass and gets a couple substantial victories preferably one against Kylo. Either way I rarely read people talking about his sexuality outside of his obvious lust/love? for Rey. The fact that that's what's being focused on and hinted at as a possible spoiler by actors is weird. Reminds me of a post some one had with a video of someone pointing out the flaws of Finn's character in which he argued the charecter was asexual and could have been played /replaced by a woman. Interesting. While I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this frame of reasoning it did pop in my head while reading a recent article about Poe/ Finn. Regardless I drift away from my point, which is, no one I have seen is really making it a significant issue on most Finn or Star Wars related boards, it's only a few headlines from media outlets and random tweets, some of which are from Rian's page.(?). Why Is it a hot topic, I don't know, Finn fans don't seem to care much. Honestly, I saw the Finn Poe dynamic similar to the Han Luke relationship, in which Poe is a cool bad ass type (Han) and Finn is the dorky reluctant hero who kind of looks up to him but not really (Luke). I didn't pick up on a sexual chemistry between them. The only sexual chemistry in TFA I observed was the awkward exchanges between Rey and Finn and the embrace between Han and Leia. Regardless If that is the route they are indeed headed (and it does look that way) I could see Poe having feelings for Finn while Finn has feelings for Rey and Rey has feelings for Poe and in the end they are all like F$&@ it and everybody ends up going solo (insert random thick accent: "or they have crazy 3way where they find who is really strongest with the force, ehhh," lol). All jokes aside, I personally feel the whole love triangle would be a bit too much but at least it makes more sense then Finn who clearly was chasing Rey, the ENTIRE film, all of a sudden switching to Poe. Again this is just my opinion. Peace.
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    Side note on possible outcomes for future films, I think Phasma should be An alien, from the species miraluka, a blind sith who sees with the force.
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Miraluka

    And Finn's family should be related to The Korunnai, FS tribe of humanoids, Mace is from Korun, they are very honorable and noble much like Finn was even with ST conditioning.
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Korun
     
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    It has been a big issue on some forums. The LBGT community has been pushing very hard for representation in the movie. Oscar issac said that he was playing romance and it is accepted poe will be homosexual. however until they get an on screen kiss or declaration of love from Finn to poe that is not enough for the LBGT peeps. The argument they pose is that Finn and Poe's Bromance is really a budding romance that will grow while rey is off training with luke. Problem you have is it doesn't make any sense to make finn homosexual.
     
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    I favor the Finn Rey relationship more.
     
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    This is my problem as well. With Poe it would fit more since he hasn't had the screen time to establish his character in that sense one way or the other. With Finn his attraction to Rey has already been established. To make him gay at this point would just come off as pandering in my opinion. I don't see the need to make both of them gay or to make Finn bi or pan either. We all know they would only be going those routes to potentially pair him with Poe so him being either of those two wouldn't matter anyway.
     
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    Please no freaking love triangles, I HATE love triangles. Also the difference between the Finn/Rey dynamic and the Luke/Leia one in ANH (which btw I do really like, just for different reasons because it's, well different) is that TFA set up Finn and Rey to be MUCH closer much quicker than the original trio in ANH. Also the idea of desperately wanting/needing family, love, and companionship is much more present in Rey's character than it was in any of the original trio in ANH as well.

    So the idea that they're going to pull a ESB-style switcheroo when it comes to him, her, and Poe is something that I consider to be highly unlikely (regardless of whether or not Disney would sanction an openly Gay couple in their main SW films to begin with). I DO see the Finn/Poe bromance continuing on/expanding, but as a "best buddies/surrogate brothers" type of deal most likely.
     
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    I completely agree with you on this one.
     
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    Why the hell does Poe need to be force sensitive?

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    How is it that people watched TFA, yet think that Finn can/should be gay in VIII?
     
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    Or better yet, how an they possibly think he's Force Sensitive? It's a huge stretch at best. I don't recall any time these films have ever been something you need a secret decoder ring to interpret.
     
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    To many he is clearly FS no decoding needed ,just depends on who you are. Why do you say he isn't?
     
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    I can easily see why people would suspect that he will end up becoming a jedi. If there is gonna be a romantic pairing, I also think that the two characters that will be involved are very obvious.
     
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    Ya? I can too. Because he used a lightsaber, and it's not the first time Star Wars fans have theorized or spread rumors about something that is at best a huge stretch of the imagination.

    I'd put this right up there with crazy theories fans had about Qui-Gon being Anakin's dad, Sifo-Dyas being Sidious (because the names are so similar ya'see) and a shapeshifting alien or something, and the myriad of other crazy theories fans have had about future sequels including Han Solo and Darth Vader having a lightsaber duel in TESB and somehow fusing together into one person (yes this was an actual theory going around back in the day alongside other theories that the smuggler with uncanny luck was force sensitive).

    But ya Jedi Finn, why not? They might as well just make him a Jedi since clearly making him not a potential Jedi and using him as a red herring to make people think twice about whatever they were planning with Rey sure didn't do enough to keep people from wanting this to happen.
     
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    Benny, come on now it's all speculation but seriously, Finn being top 1% of his class in a Star Wars movie is enough to speculate FS. Project harvester in the cannon also hints that this is how the empire would test who is FS amongst their ranks. Finn is the only ST to break his training, and he is part of a special ops unit that trained to fight Jedi. Not to mention he could be related to these guys, especially given the responses from Sam Jack. (Again top 1% in any military is a very dangerous man, think Jason Bourne in space on his 1st mission, that's what we should have seen in Finn given the context.) So no it's not super far fetched given that if Finn isn't FS he is the first Human we've seen outside of Pre Vizsla, leader of the mandalorians, FIGHT with a light Saber,( vizsla wore special mandalorian armor and used the dark saber a solid form of light saber while Cad Bane and The Greve were aliens, the latter being a cyborg), and Finn would be the first to do so that did not get killed by a death slash from a trained dark side FS, come to think of it a lot of light side FS didn't survive duels against trained darksiders and non FS never survive a light saber duel with a trained FS injured or not.
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Korun
     
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    Well i'm sure you know that most people's reasons are not exactly centered on the fact that he uses a lightsaber.
     
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    Wait, where did Oscar Isaac say this? I've seen John Boyega down right debunk it as a fan fiction, but I've seen people claim Oscar Isaac said this and even some LGBT sites and fan-fiction sites attributing "hints and teases" to John Boyega despite him saying it was fan fiction and nothing else and something in everyone's imagination: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-gay-theory-false_us_568fbdb7e4b0cad15e6458a7, yet people are writing stuff like this: http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainme...pisode-viii-john-boyega-fuels-rumours-2180640
     
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