Official Leia Organa Episode VIII Discussion Thread

She's safe now.

 

Ok is that true? A Prozac holder?

 

Yup I saw the pictures.

 

Yes Kenny's with her now.

 

I'm still surprised they expanded the roles of Luke/Leia after Episode 7.

I always thought before TFA came out that Han, Luke & Leia would be more ceremonial roles and passing the torch to Rey, Finn and Poe for Episode 8 & 9.

I remember being in shock when the Opening Crawl mentioned Luke had vanished. It hit me at that moment that he was going to play a bigger part in this Trilogy then I expected.

I always thought it was risky to have Luke/Leia possibly be in 3 movies that would film over 4-5 years because of their age. Many will argue that Alec Guiness was the same age in the OT but they didn't need him as a force ghost once Yoda was created in ESB and could easily be written out.

Now I love the fact that Luke/Leia will play a prominent role in Episode 8 (those characters are near and dear to my heart), but it was always a risk that Hamill & Fisher may not survive in real life before filming Episode 9.

 

I think her scene with Kylo is crucial to the character, is Leia does die you could go about it in different ways:

1) Kylo monologuing similar to his interaction with Vader's helmet
2) Forceghost CGI Leia (Luke taught her before vanishing or whatever)
3) Avoid CGI and use only Leia voiceover with some actress imitating the voice

As for her reunion with Luke it would be a dramatic parallel to ROTJ if it was simply him briefly seeing her forceghost . You could use old footage for this.

 

i was frankly shocked too. i knew Harrison Ford was in it but thought he would just have a very small cameo. i never expected to see Luke or Leia.
in a way they are passing the torch. the ST isn't about them, really, but it's nice that they are there.
i hope Luke and Leia live to the end of it. losing Han was enough.

 

I do see what you're saying, but I somewhat disagree with these statements. Yes, absolutely, I agree that the story is about the new characters who are obviously beloved by the general movie audience, but to ignore or remove iconic characters such as Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker would be a big mistake. They ARE Star Wars, whether in a major role or in a supportive capacity. The Big Three were needed to hook OT fans into this new trilogy of movies, who many now have children of their own and would pass down their love for SW to them and take their families to the theatre, which is fantastic from a marketing and merchandising standpoint for LFL and DIS.

In the making of ANY film, there is always a risk of injury or death. There are simply things we just can't control. That's why companies like LF and D take the necessary precautions in the event such things do occur.
Carrie (bless her) was the YOUNGEST of the Big Three. Who would have thought this would happen? I sure didn't. No one did.
Who would have thought Harrison Ford would get injured on set and then later have to crash land his plane in real life?
John Williams, who is in his eighties and hasn't been in the best of health, was still pursued to score the EP 8 script regardless. Another individual synonymous of SW.
I"m sure with the younger cast who are far more involved in stunts and active elements of the story have taken necessary precautions as well.
Who thought the young and upcoming actor from Star Trek would have a freak accident and die? It could happen to any one at any age.

Some things we just don't have control over. But it shouldn't stop anyone from including beloved characters because of age.

 

No doubt there are risks in any movie or TV show as your Star Trek analogy about the young actor who died is spot on.

I just remember hearing Carrie Fisher do in an interview before TFA about how they're roles are more ceremonial as she used the word 'pass the torch.'

That's why I was sort of shocked to see that TFA was essentially about finding Luke. That isn't a ceremonial role, that is a MAJOR role.

Again, I love that we'll see Luke kicking ass in Episode 8 as it will be a show stopper the second he ignites his lightsaber.

But to play devil's advocate, JJ succeeded with the new characters more then anyone expected. Unlike the PT characters, the ST characters really resonated, which I never thought would happen. Rey is the future of Star Wars.

I honestly think Episode 8 could have worked without Luke, Leia and Han, as the OT was about them.

 

I have to say that I really love Rey, Poe, Finn and Kylo.. they are fabulous. And you're right, it is about the ST characters, but then again it's a Skywalker saga. I see what you are saying about passing on the torch, but I think the OT characters are too much part of the Star Wars fabric, that you'd lose some viewership. So we'd have to agree to disagree on the latter point. I know they 're NOT in the lead, but then again, things change from production to production in terms of scripts and the direction they wish to take. I think society has become too quick to just kick out original characters because of Hollywood standards of age, beauty and purpose. It's not necessary to have them be the lead, but they still can have impact. Luckily, EP7 made me delve into Adam Driver's career, and now, I'm a big fan of his because of it. Looking forward to his latest films, too. Back to the OT characters, I do see that they may end their part by EP 9, but it's not necessary to get rid of them all together. I can see EP 10 taking on a brand new direction, however, I think LF needs to take a break between saga trilogies to avoid SW fatigue.

See I do see your point, but we can agree to disagree on some. Good conversation though.

 

This generation that the torch is being passed 2 IMHO have nearly DROPPED it. They have some BIG shoes 2 fill.

I fear they may never "fit" properly. Whoa to the saga.

At least R1 is great!

 

I dont want the torch to be passed moreso that it's an evolution of what happens parellel to each other.

 

I disagree, since Luke as the last of the old Jedi and first of the new Jedi was always going to be featured in an important role. The same for Leia as the one to rebuild the republic is important as well. A ST completely without them would have resulted in a complete new saga and not a continuation of what came before.

 

i didn't say they shouldn't be in it. i said i was surprised that they were. big difference.

 

Lucasfilm has announced that there will be no CGI Leia in Episode 9.

http://www.starwars.com/news/a-statement-regarding-new-rumors

"We don’t normally respond to fan or press speculation, but there is a rumor circulating that we would like to address. We want to assure our fans that Lucasfilm has no plans to digitally recreate Carrie Fisher’s performance as Princess or General Leia Organa."

 

I'm really surprised by that statement. Hopefully it's not just a reaction to whatever negative Tarkin stuff is out there, and an indication that they have a good plan for Leia's involvement in the upcoming movies. I trust them.

 

Well, the announcement does not state that there will be no CGI Leia in Ep.9; it says that Lucasfilm has no plans for it.
Yep, you can call me Captain Pedantic and I'll be here all week...

 

That's a strange thing to say. The way life is, it's risky to have ANYONE play the same character over a 5 year period. Let's face it, an actor can easily drop dead simply due to an undiagnosed health condition, drugs, etc... You can't go into a series of films thinking, "Well, let's not have X character in each of the three films because the actor could die." I mean, look at Harrison Ford and what happened during the filming of VII. He breaks his foot, his plane crashes.

 

I disagree, you don't think that Max Von Sydow has trouble being cast in bigger roles at his age? He has been in SW and Game of Thrones, which are 2 of the biggest franchises, and both were very minor roles that weren't expanded on.