Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

Ah okay yeah, that makes sense. I was thinking of something completely different.

 

Yeah the candy is in a tube. The topper had a Luke sculpt and a push to talk button.

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Spoiler: Article with more info

https://makingstarwars.net/2017/10/candy-dispensers-reveal-new-dialogue-star-wars-last-jedi/

 

Can't wait to see Luke!

 

I am so glad to see Luke Skywalker in the Falcon, but "I have a bad feeling" that he will not leave the Island of Ahch-To and help the resistance. I don't think we will get the reunion with Luke and Leia either. It breaks my heart a little that Sequel Trilogy will never have the Big Three Reunion that I was so excited for once I heard that there was going to be an Episode VII. What a shame and a missed opportunity. I do like new characters, but this sequel trilogy will always have a tinge of melancholy due to the passing of Carrie Fisher and the missed opportunities of the interaction of the Legacy Characters. I truly hope there will be a Novel written with a scene of Luke, Leia, and Han interacting with each other. I miss them together. Oh well, I can always go and re-read the Legend's Thrawn Trilogy. I am looking forward to The Last Jedi, I just have to set my expectations low, when it comes to the Skywalker family. I think Lucasfilm is slowly venturing away from the Skywalker family drama to new individual characters and their story adventures for the future of Star Wars.

 

40 Years of Heroism
Discover the next stage of Luke Skywalker’s evolution as Mark Hamill shares his thoughts on his character’s 40-year journey in Star Wars: The Last Jedi premiering December 15.

https://disneydebit.com/wp-content/...yVisaDebit_Online_10.27_102717_1_FINAL_Lo.pdf

Mark Hamill: "Actually, I don’t think Luke’s fundamental personality has changed [over the years], except that he is older and his life experiences have shaped his outlook the same way they do for all of us." "The biggest challenge for me was actually in the time between Return of the Jedi and Star Wars: The Force Awakens. I had to know what had happened to Luke during those years. I had to glean decades of backstory from the script. And some of it I had to make up for myself. I had to know what he went through during that time. It’s not important to the storyline for this film, but I did discuss some of my thoughts with Rian Johnson (the film’s writer and director) to make sure I wasn’t coming up with anything in my personal backstory that would affect Luke’s portrayal in this film." "In Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Luke has lost confidence in his ability to make good choices. It haunts him to the core. But he hasn’t gone to the dark side. This isn’t an evil version of him. But it’s still an incarnation of the character I never expected. It has pulled me out of my comfort zone. It’s a real challenge." "I’m sure this line is a great shock to the audience [to hear Luke say that it's time for the Jedi to end], so you can imagine how I felt! This is a huge change for a character who once represented optimism and hope. It’s a radical decision to drop out of everything he’s ever believed in. The entire movie is filled with these kinds of jaw-dropping surprises, but you’ll just have to see the film itself to discover what they are."

 

http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/11/04/star-wars-the-last-jedi-mark-hamill-luke-insulted/

 

Hopefully this settles it. Luke won't be dark.

"But he hasn’t gone to the dark side. This isn’t an evil version of him."

 

Does he mean in the marketing campaign?

 

Translation: This is NOT the Luke Skywalker you grew up with.

 

I just came her to laugh at all the people who thought all the fuss about Luke wanting the Jedi to end, etc meant he was on the dark side or embracing it to some extent. So there, eat bantha poodoo.

It was clear from the beginning he thought he screwed up with his Jedi school and felt guilty. So many words, so much clickbait wasted....

 

Nice find man.you could be right.

 

I don't think he really had a Jedi academy or School. But as for the dark side, yeah that wasn't gonna happen.

 

Oh no, Luke won't be dark. But he won't be Luke, either.

He'll be Yoda now.

Expect Luke to stay on the island for the entirety of the film, and never use his green lightsaber or do any of the things we were promised with him at the end of Return Of The Jedi.

"The sequel trilogy isn't about Luke!", the apologists will say -- that's right, it's about characters who are ripoffs of the originals that nobody cares about, who exploited the return of the original characters for a bait and switch once asses were in seats.

Yoda failed with Anakin and against the Emperor, and into exile he went, after losing faith in his decision making. Luke failed with Kylo and against Snoke, and into exile he went, after losing faith in his decision making.

Han Solo was an old man who taught the new characters about the force and died so the new lead character could be thrust into her role as a hero, just like Obi Wan did with Luke.

Rey is the new Luke.
Finn is the new Han.
Poe is the new Leia.
Kylo is the new Vader.
Snoke is the new Emperor.
First Order is the new Empire.
Resistance is the new Rebellion.

Are you getting the picture yet? It's as though Return Of The Jedi never happened.

The new movies, for "safety", have taken the skeleton of the original films, and simply grafted new flesh to it, when the flesh and world should be the same, but the skeleton (plot, arcs, etc) should be new.

JJ Abrams and Kennedy are smart business people, and this is a great way to hedge their bets.

But never will they be forgiven for wasting a once in a lifetime opportunity that we never thought would be given, and that is creating and abysmally squandering the return of the original characters.

We had a once in a lifetime opprtunity to see the reunion of Luke, Han, and Leia, but JJ wrote Luke out of the movie because they couldn't figure out what to do with him, regressed Han Solo back into a smuggler when he should have been the new king, then killed him, making a reunion impossible, and then Carrie Fisher died, meaning that life would also forbid such a reunion in addition to Abrams' and Kennedy's terrible creative decisions.

Part of the trouble with this new trilogy is that it seems to want to pretend that all of the original trilogy characters were all legacy heroes first, and that Yoda, Obi Wan, and the Emperor were all as well known and iconic as Luke, Han, and Leia, as though they had their own set of movies first before the original trilogy started, and Luke, Han, and Leia were secondary and focused on because they were the next generation, when in reality Luke, Han, and Leia are who Star Wars was ALWAYS about, and nobody was disappointed that Obi Wan was an old man who died or that Yoda never left his swamp BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EXIST PRIOR TO THE ORIGINAL FILMS, and were created to compliment the original trilogy characters like Luke. The original trilogy characters did not "spawn" from them, the original trilogy was created for Luke, Han, and Leia, and Obi Wan and Yoda were created as supporting characters for them.

The makers of the new films seem to have confused the internal history of the characters for the external creative history, the way in which they are applied to films.

They seem to think that having Yoda just dwell in his swamp, and Obi Wan die and never reunite with Yoda, was some sort of bold move that really shattered everyone's expectations, when the series was never about them to begin with, and they were always supplemental.

Now they want to apply that same attitude of the supplemental characters to Luke, Han, and Leia, as though they are the same as Yoda, Obi Wan, and so on, when both the prequel and sequel characters are the supplemental characters who are branching off of and would not exist without the original trilogy characters, which is what Star Wars is really about.

In other words, what was okay to do with Yoda is not okay to do with Luke, and so on.

Luke failed lots of times in the original trilogy, never once did he ever abandon his friends, give up, and go into exile. Even when he was told it was a lost cause by his superiors, even when he was told to kill his father, Luke always stayed true to the right thing. ESPECIALLY if his loved ones were threatened.

Mark Hamill called it right the first time: it IS an absolute insult and disgrace to treat Luke as they have, and make him a coward and then into Yoda because they were out of ideas. They can try to shut him up and intimidate him with his contract and make him "explain" and "apologize" all they want, but the proof is plain for all to see, what he said is absolutely true. I mean, the man is literally "making up" why Luke is the way he is now to help reconcile things for fans because the sequel trilogy gives a half assed and unsatisfying explanation/excuse for it. Hamill shouldn't have to explain a thing, if the movies were actually doing what they are supposed to.

I will not be paying to see this film anywhere ever if Luke does not use his GREEN lightsaber l and spring into action at one point, and neither should anyone else (his blue lightsaber should not even be back, that was more flimsy and lazy storytelling and we will never get an explanation for it). It is all that is left for them not to ruin about the original films, TFA already did 80% of the damage, ruining pretty much everything established in the original trilogy character and story-wise, to rework the core and arcs of the OT characters for the sequel trilogy ripoff characters to graft themselves onto.

 

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***I feel your pain***. I too was so ecstatic to hear about Episode VII with the "Big Three" returning and getting a screen reunion, but we now know how that turned out. I don't know why we couldn't get a reunion with Luke, Leia, and Han and also have the film focus on the newcomers. I rewatched The Force Awakens last night and I couldn't believe how rushed a lot of scenes felt. I felt that J.J. was so concerned about the nostalgia and action, that I felt the characters motivations were glossed over. I honestly don't know what Rey's motivation is, other than that she wants to get back to Jakku to wait for her family. I want to really like Rey, but I feel like there is something missing. She appears in TFA as here is our Heroine but without a strong "Hero's Journey". It's beyond "whose her parents?", it's: who is she, what motivates her into wanting to help the resistance, to learn about the force. I hope The Last Jedi will answer those questions and make her a great strong character that she deserves to be.
I am with you on wanting Luke to be much more than a defeated Yoda. I want to see him with his Green Lightsaber as well.

 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-the-last-jedi-wont-reveal-luke-skywalker/1100-6454802/

 

LUKE SKYWALKER CAN CANONICALLY DO THIS

 

The point of The Legends of Luke Skywalker is that each of these stories is told by an unreliable narrator and you cannot be certain of anything the narrators say. Some stories are more plausible than others, sure, but the one with Luke on Jakku is apparently one of the less credible stories.