Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

I'm not saying he wasn't on Jakku, I just don't believe we will see anyone pulling Star Destroyers down from the sky Starkiller-style.

 

I love this book for this aspect even more. To hear Rey and Finn talk about Luke and Han like they are legends, it is cool to see stories that may or may not be legit, but this is how the galaxy sees him.

 

Once again here is a reminder of what Oscar Isaac had to say in Vanity Fair. This should ease the mind of anyone who doesn’t think Luke is getting off of Ach-To

. “So to be there, and to watch Mark revisit Luke, particularly in these scenes we were shooting towards the end of the film, was bizarre and jaw-dropping,” he told me. “It’s like when you see an old band re-unite and go on the road, and they don’t quite hit those high notes anymore—though in this situation it’s completely the opposite. It’s the fulfillment of where your imagination would take you when you imagine where Luke would go, or what he’s become.”

 

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Mark Hamill: “I think it was a practical decision to push my story to Episode VIII because the plate was so full. You had to establish all these new characters, you had to honour the end of Han Solo’s storyline, and it would have been too complicated. I thought the audience would demand that at some point Luke and Leia and Han were all together – I thought that would be a major bone of contention but I was wrong.” “[For The Force Awakens] JJ Abrams just said, ‘Turn around slowly, remove your hood…’ They were just going to run the camera for an extraordinary long period of time, and I thought I’m going to give them as much as I can, a range from bewilderment to suspicion to anger to doubt to great joy – I turned around one time and was so happy to see her! Then JJ could take what little puzzle piece he needed and do with it as he wanted. I wasn’t really sure what he wanted either. It wasn’t really specified, it was very enigmatic, for a reason, because I’m not sure they even really knew. It’s like a relay where they pass the torch, because JJ writes whatever he wants and then hands it off, then Rian [Johnson] writes up to the end of VIII and hands it over to IX without knowing where IX’s going to finish. It’s that old cliché line – so crazy it just might work! Who knows what’s the right way to do it? George Lucas handed over his notes for what he thought should happen in VII, VIII and IX, but after selling it to Disney for [indecipherable noise] billion dollars, they threw it all out and started from scratch, doing it the way they wanted. At that price they’re entitled!” (SFX magazine Winter 2017 issue)

Mark Hamill: “As you know from the trailer, Luke says it’s time for the Jedi to end. When I read it, I went ‘What!’ He was always the most optimistic character, who believed with all his heart and soul in what Yoda and Obi-Wan taught him. I said, ‘What could have happened in that gap that would make him be this cynical hermit who wants to end the Jedi?’ It was very troubling for me, but I came to realise that Rian wanted to do something that hadn’t been done before. If I was the same person from [Return of the] Jedi without the trauma, I would be just another version of Obi-Wan, and we’ve already seen that. And since it’s not my story anymore, now it’s Rey’s story, I think you can be more flexible in terms of how the supporting characters like myself are handled.” “You can’t help but feel a little ownership even though I didn’t create it. Then you think, ‘These young punks think that they know Luke better than me!’ But this is the first generation of filmmakers who were fans, who were kids when the movies first came out, and now they’re reinterpreting them for a new generation. And at some point you have to realise they have to make the movie they want, they don’t have to make the movie I want.” (SFX magazine Winter 2017 issue)

Mark Hamill: “My son Nathan is the real Star Wars buff and he told me years ago, ‘Dad, there’s this great story where they clone an evil Luke from your severed hand [Luuke Skywalker in The Last Command, a 1993 Star Wars novel].’ I said, ‘Oh, baby, would I love that?’ Not only could you get to play your evil twin, but what a great idea that you bring Luke back, and the audience starts noticing him undermining the heroes, cutting their fuel supply inexplicably, maybe even killing one of the supporting characters. It would be so mind boggling, and then of course the real Luke shows up and that mystery is solved. But there’s too much Luke, and it’s not my story anymore. When I suggested it to [Rian Johnson], he said he thought that was a cool storyline too, but it’s been done. Rian had to find a way to take elements of the movies that everyone expects to be there – the action, the adventure, the special effects, the creatures and humor – so that everyone feels they’re having a Star Wars experience, but also bring something new to the table, that’s challenging, that hasn’t been done before. I think he’s done it. This one doesn’t feel like any of the others to me, aside from the elements I just spoke about. People say, ‘Is it more like [Return of the] Jedi, is it more like [The] Empire [Strikes Back]?’ I dunno, it’s sort of like its own thing.” (November 8, 2017)

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...Hamill-lost-20kg-Star-Wars-Force-Awakens.html
http://www.gamesradar.com/mark-hamill-needed-a-mountain-guide-to-stop-him-uhh-dy ing-in-his-star-wars-the-last-jedi-ahch-to-scenes/

 

Mark Hamill, Daisy Ridley and Rian Johnson will promote Star Wars: The Last Jedi in Mexico

http://www.elproyectormx.com/2017/11/TheLastJediMexico.html

 

I'm all for seeing Luke crank the Jedi powers up to a new level as long as it's not achieved through god awful (PT era) CGI.

I'm not a technophobe and I'm all for CGI however it can ruin movies if used in excess ie the matrix. I know the tech is far more advanced now (R1 CGI was amazing) however I hope they continue in the same vein as TFA and we don't end up with a CGI Luke doing his best Goku impression.

 

Yeah, the idea of a Jedi Master should in my view be based upon the idea that they don't have to jump around and do fancy twirls. Their power should make such things unnecessary. This is why Yoda fighting the way he did in the PT was borderline ridiculous.

And yet, having said that, when he took on Dooku & then Sidious, I squealed in delight like a 7 year old girl.

 

TBH, I don't want to see Luke use his lightsaber, he shouldn't need to. Would it be nice to see him use it? Yes, but I will not be disappointed if he doesn't.

 

Well, this is not canon - canon is the story where someone tells a story they heard from someone else who supposedly saw a hologram of Luke that, from his POV, looked a bit like it was shooting at the ships - then the man fell unconscious and dreamed about Luke slicing star destroyers down with a lightsaber. I am surprised how many people haven't really grasped the "Legends" aspect of this book, supported by the stories being told by people who only heard them from someone else and conversations about how stories are always a mix of truth and lies. (This is more to @LilyInTheSkywalker )

I wouldn't be so pessimistic - I think that Mark Hamill is talking more about where Luke is psychologically at the start of the film, than ebout how powerful he is. Oscar Isaacs' comment gives me a lot of hope that at the end of TLJ, we're gonna see Luke in his power and glory. They just needed for him to have some struggles to make for an interesting story and for the moment to feel earned in the film.

 

I have not seen of any leaks of Luke leaving the island. I truly hope that won't be the case. I know there is a shot of him in the Millennium Falcon, which brings me hope that it will be Luke and Chewy (Porg too) piloting the Falcon during the Craig Battle. Rey left with Kylo to see Snoke.

 

i'm on this boat. Luke should be too wise and too powerful for garish displays.
i assume he'll do something impressive to please the fans who want to see it, but i really hope they keep it more subtle and demonstrate his strength and wisdom in more "human" ways.

he didn't win Darth Vader with physical power or the Force. he won him by refusing to kill.

 

I’ve been thinking about it, and what if Luke isn’t in exile on Ahch-To for the purpose of just hiding away from everything else in the galaxy?

What if Ahch-To is a conduit of the Force, similar to Mortis or Dagobah, and Luke knows that the only chance that he has of taking down Snoke would be on this planet specifically?

 

Would make sense and fit logically.
I like to think Luke is letting people think he's been hiding but he's really just getting on that Force HGH.

 

I've been looking into lukes motivations for his assumed isolation/hermit like existence.

Now the obvious one is because of his failure with the new gen of Jedi and this mirrors what we've seen with Yoda and ob1. Personally I think that's a bit too neat.

I've had a bit of a crazy idea *insert maniacal cackle here*.

What if snoke looks the way he does because its the result of something Luke did to him. Snoke obviously has sustained some significant injuries in the past. What if his aged and decrepit appearance is another effect of that, similar to what happened to palpatine.

Maybe Luke enraged by something snoke had done totally 'lost it' and attacked him using the dark side. This I think, would be unforgivable for Luke. Maybe he secluded himself because he is afraid of what he is/could be capable of.

This motivation seems more believable and more powerful than his failure with the Jedi. It doesn't necessarily have to be the snoke scenario but something similar is definitely possible.

We saw in ROTJ that Luke could be tempted to react out of anger and rage, maybe he finally gave into that and the result terrified him.

 

Entertainment Weekly - Luke and Leia: What's at stake for the long-lost twins in The Last Jedi

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/21/star-wars-the-last-jedi-luke-leia/

 

Still got the signal right 30 yrs on.

 

Wrong hand. Luke dark sider confirmed.