SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

I think he trains Rey. But I cannot accept Luke turning to the dark side, he already faced down that demon. I'd say he is terrifically depressed over something, and has withdrawn, will not use his power on the side of the light, and the Resistance really needs him now. It's up to Rey to awaken the Force.... in Luke.

 

Either he turns to the dark side somehow....or yeah....Rey and Finn both have to lift up the Jedi back to form.

 

I think that he is still light and is Rey's relative or father.
Maybe he spent all those years out of the politics and rebellion to focus on his Jedi training, sorta like Buddhism.

 

Meh if there is a connection to the necklace and padame it's leia's. It would be her mother's. Poe is her surrogate son, it proves his connection to her.

 

Maybe that thing Poe has is a Kyber crystal that connects Rey to Luke? Maybe she wore it like a necklace, not knowing what it was.

 

You'll afford it, if you love me you'll get my Christmas present.

 

Apologies if this has been posted in the past, may be back up for conversation?

THIS FOLLOWING POST IS FROM A TUMBLER (teamreyskywalker.tumblr.com) I JUST FOUND AND ITS FREAKING ME OUT:

Welcome to the Rey Skywalker Conspiracy Theory, in which we outline the reasons why Rey should be a Skywalker and more precisely, Luke’s daughter. Could she be an Organa-Solo? Sure, maybe. Could she be unrelated to the Skywalker clan? Possibly, but unlikely. To us, The Force Awakens makes the most narrative sense with Rey Skywalker, and hey, it aligns with our own personal desires for TFA and Luke in particular, we’re not denying that.

Find our reasons below, but please be aware that this theory takes the rumors/spoilers/speculation at face value, so ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK!

HERE THERE BE SPOILERS.


Why Rey should be Luke’s daughter:

• Luke is a character who is all about family - his love for his aunt and uncle, his father, and his sister cannot be denied. We firmly believe that he would desire a family of his own, including children.
  
  
• Luke deciding to have a family as a giant Blast you to the Old Order rules about attachment is a beautiful thing. Anyone who argues that “Luke wouldn’t break Jedi Attachment Rules” clearly don’t understand Luke’s character or the point of ROTJ, and needs to watch the movies again.
  
  
• Luke having a daughter would be treading new ground for Star Wars as it distances TFA from Legends, and allows the Sequel Trilogy to explore a very different dynamic.
  
  
• The narrative harmony of Father-Son-Daughter in Anakin-Luke-Rey is perfect. Just imagine Rey meeting Luke at the end of TFA, handing back his lightsaber and saying “I’m here to be a Jedi - like my father before me.”
  
  
• It would make Anakin, Luke and Rey, three generations of Skywalkers, all children of the desert.
  
  
• At its heart the Star Wars Saga is about the Skywalker family, and Rey Skywalker would continue that tradition, as well as keep the name alive for future generations.
  
  
• If we have to sit through hermit!Luke, the conclusion of TFA revealing Rey to be Luke’s long-lost daughter makes that travesty far more palatable.
  
  
• Luke Skywalker is THTBAH (Too Hot to Be a Hermit, from the modified “Too Hot to Be a Widower.”).

The evidence:

• Daisy Ridley looks a lot like ANH-era Mark Hamill and there are direct visual references in TFA:

• As per the Felicity Jones Conspiracy Theory, Rey also looks a great deal like our lead in Rogue One, providing a possibly backstory for the SkyMom.

• Luke is blonde and blue-eyed, and Felicity is dark-haired with green eyes - they could very well produce a dark-haired, hazel-eyed daughter (taking into account brown-eyed grandmother Padmé Naberrie and great-grandmother Shmi Skywalker):

• But seriously, on the Felicity Jones front: what better way to in-universe market the first spinoff film, Rogue One than for Rey to be the daughter of Luke and Felicity’s character? TFA ends with the revelation of father-daughter, which inevitably leads the audience to ask “Who’s the mother?” Then BOOM! here comes a film the very next year telling us a part of that story.
  
  
• JJ is a troll, and clearly wants to subvert expectations as well as surprise people. It makes sense that he would do a bait-and-switch with Rey, making people initially think she’s Han and Leia’s child when really she is Luke’s.
  
  
• If Kylo Ren is indeed a Solo gone bad, cousin versus cousin is just as interesting as sister versus brother and takes a step away from rehashing the Legends EU Jaina versus Jacen.
  
  
• Rey and Kylo seem to embody the light and dark sides, and what better way to personify this than having them as two separate branches of the Skywalker family tree needing to come back into harmony?
  
  
• Rey can fly the Falcon pretty well, and its her first time doing so. And who is the “best star pilot in the galaxy” (as per Weapon of a Jedi)? Luke Skywalker, that’s who. While inheriting the Falcon may point to Solo lineage, making the jump from desert-dweller to hotshot space pilot is definitely a Luke thing.
  
  
• If Rey is Leia’s long-lost daughter, it’s not emotionally satisfying that she’s returned to her, and they share a “special goodbye” before Leia sends her off to train with “Uncle Luke.”
  
  
• What is emotionally satisfying is for Leia to suggest that Rey be the first to meet Luke, as a way of remembering her past and accepting her heritage, and having that emotional reunion with her father in the final scene.
  
  
• The blue lightsaber is the McGuffin of TFA, a blade Luke inherited from Anakin, and it makes sense for Rey to inherit it from Luke. Promotional material refers to it as the “Skywalker lightsaber” which supports the idea of it as a family heirloom.
  
  
• Rey is probably about 19 in TFA, paralleling Anakin in AoTC and Luke and Leia in ANH. So she would have been born about 10 years after Endor - a long time after Han/Leia got together and presumably had Kylo (who was probably conceived not long after Endor). However, Rey’s age fits in with a timeline where Luke fell in love and married sometime in the intervening years, and had a child.
  
  
• Luke means “light” so “ray of light” = Rey, of Luke which is a cute little pun.
  
  
• Etymologically speaking, Rey is Spanish for “King.” The female form is “Reina.” In French, it’s “Reine.”
  • We know that Rey and Kylo Ren have some sort of confrontation in the film. With the rumors out there that the Knights of Ren are looking for Vader artifacts / blood relatives of Anakin Skywalker…could Rey be the one that they’re looking for? Maybe to make her their “Queen,” their leader, their Vader reincarnated?
• Luke and Rey both have the same numbers on their trading cards:

• Luke and Rey have very similar stamps:

• Mark Hamill and Daisy Ridley seem to have developed a bond - she nominated him for the ice bucket challenge and he’s had only lovely things to say about her.
  
  
• “The Force is strong in my family” quote in the second teaser was chosen for a very specific reason. It invokes the idea of the Force as a family legacy centering around Luke, and being passed on through Rey.

• Rey and Luke’s TFA costumes share a color scheme, and Rey’s costume also reflects Anakin’s in TPM and Luke’s in ANH.

• Question: “Who is Luke Skywalker?” Answer: Rey’s father.

 

Whether true or not it is very well thought out. The biggest stretch in my opinion is the Felicity Jones/mom angle.

 

I scrolled by this and my dad asked, "Is she Luke's?" I let him read the post and he said, "Makes sense." He doesn't really care either way, to him Star Wars is Star Wars and nothing can change that, but now even he's convinced that she's Luke's.

This is well thought out, for sure. If JJ wants to subvert tropes then she would be Han and Leia's (or neither) but this even more firmly entrenches me in team Luke.

 

I don't understand why so many people still debate this. The jimjamjim leaks from 2014 were 100% accurate (Adam Driver with the cross-saber, snowy forest duel with Boyega), and he said that Rey is Han's daughter. That's all I needed to make up my mind.

 

Not 100%. I believe he said Rey gets injured and by the look of the scene in the trailers it is Finn who is injured

 

IIRC he said he saw Rey get thrown to the ground, and/or the actors did some gestures that looked like Force choking or something like that. That's probably what he saw to make him think she gets hurt. I mean it would make sense if Rey got put out of commission for a moment while Kylo and Finn get to duel - both Rey and Finn are there at the same time but for some reason we see Kylo facing Finn alone in the trailers. Which means Rey is probably briefly unable to fight while that's going on.

 

Finn being injured in that shot aligns with at least three pieces of data

1) leaked pre-production concept art
2) audition script from 2013
3) leaked scene list

 

You saw the whole scene in that entire second of footage? Wow. You must have Maz eyes.

 

The guy actually said she would die in that fight, what is obviously not true, i don't doubt he saw the scene, but he have a hard time reading it, and probably have a bad concept of how a fight occurs in the Star Wars universe, and don't know nothing about the actors and the role they're playing

 

At first he said that but then he retracted and said, "I've seen the scene and wasn't sure whether she was killed or not. She also gets captured by Driver."

 

I've seen probably exactly the same amount as you have and yet you claim jimjamjim was 100% right. I'm not trying to discredit the guy. From what I have read he seems to be pretty close. But there is no way to say he is 100% right. Maybe he saw the scene and misinterpreted Rey getting injured as it appears she is not. Maybe he did not see Finn getting injured (why else would Rey be crying over him). Maybe the scene was shot with different scenarios and the one he saw is not exactly what will make it into the movie. I'm not sure why you seemed to take my post so personal. I wasn't trying to piss in your cornflakes. I was just making a valid observation.

 

I don't think so, that was the part that i felt more interesting, that could really be the selling point of her being Luke's daughter now the timeline would make it weird sure, if Felicity Jones is 18 at best in Rogue One, that would make her at least 40 when Rey was born.

Other than that i find this idea exhilarating.

 

It definitely was interesting. I just don't see it likely that Felicity Jones'character becomes Rey's mom. Hey I could be wrong though.

 

Oh yes! I agree with you 100%

I absolutely hate it when people decide to tinkle in my cereal... especially when i'm eating cornflakes.

You made the right decision to not piss in his cornflakes, for that you get a medal.