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Peter Mayhew's Recent Comments

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by ChrisI, Nov 2, 2015.

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    Pretty much. Why can't people have your line of thought. I mean....unless she doesn't have much dialogue then perhaps we can then say she's done okay?

    But we should want her to be amazing and be critical of her just like with everyone else. I do hope people here are fans of art, quality and film ahead of being Star Wars fans. All because she's the lead or a Skywalker does not make her automatically good or amazing. Jake Lloyd, bless his young soul, annoyed the hell out of me, but for someone so young I put the blame firmly on Lucas.

    I've always said, Isaac is the best actor of the three considerably, and hope he has a prominent role just like Ford was the best actor in the original trilogy and his acting helped to get the best out of Carrie and Mark.

    I am an optimistic pessimist, so I am glad with what Mayhew said about Boyega....but don't want to tempt fate. I have not yet seen anything from him that has jumped out at me to show he will be great.
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    When you think of him getting that Rising Star Award and the interviews he's been given...it may be due to his performance or auditions, rather than what people want to deem as being a red-herring to misdirect people.
     
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    Abrams has good rapport with his actors, so I don't doubt that he will bring out the best in them. However, if your "best" is Alice Eve in STID, then there's not much anyone can do about it.

    Boyega is a great actor. Attack the Block was an impressive debut and his stint on 24 just added more to it. And it says a lot that he nabbed a pretty juicy part in The Circle.
     
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    I'm the same age as Daisy. I would be beyond nervous at the prospect of of being in Star Wars. Obviously it's a huge opportunity and a life changing event for her but at the same time I'm sure she realized that she would be under a microscope for the next 6 years at least. Just look at this thread. 2 pages of anonymous Star Wars fans debating her acting chops before the movie even comes out. That isn't normal life for a 23 year old. She really hadn't even been in any movies or TV shows of note before being cast, so I'm sure she was still slightly unfamiliar with the process of filming ANYTHING, let alone being the star of the most anticipated and most expensive movie of all time...

    I'm glad to see that she is coming out of her shell, but out of everyone in the trailers she's shown the widest range of emotions on screen. She'll be fine.
     
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    Yeah...I mean, Abrams is not really known for getting the best out of female parts.

    And I have NO time for the "cutesy, cutesy" kind of lead. Being sweet and lovely does not make you a good actress.

    If it was Cameron or Scott, who directed two of THE greatest female heroines of all time, I would be very confident they would get the casting right.

    But as you said...Alice Eve was not one to write home about and even Abrams admitted he dropped the ball, as she was just there for T and A.
     
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    I think they had to have picked her for a reason, especially over other actresses her age who have been starring in films since they were children or even have Oscar nominations. Saoirse Ronan held out for this part, I think she even turned down Scarlet Witch because she didn't want that to conflict. And they went with a totally unknown girl over Ronan, so they must have a good reason.
     
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    Ooookay.....

    Out of EVERYONE she showed the widest range in that trailer? Come on, can we please be real? She looked okay, and everyone was okay or decent. You can't tell me anyone really showed a WIDE range of emotions in what was a trailer that did not really focus on any one actor or aspect.

    And it's not like people are ripping her down or anything...it's just that the jury is still out on her because of her lack of a resume. I'm still not totally sold on Boyega, but he's already showed some glimpses that are promising and I saw him in 24 and Attack the Block where he was good...but still, jury is out on him because the trailer did not solidify anyone will come out amazing.
     
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    I hope it didn't sound like I thought they shouldn't have chosen her because of her inexperience, because I think that she's the perfect choice, I was just using that as a reason she might be a little bit more "solid".
     
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    THANK goodness they did. I say go unknown. Like I'm not a fan of Ronan. Just can't connect with her. With someone unknown, it's a blank slate and you can better invest in them.

    But with that...your casting really needs to be on point because if they flop, all the blame will go on Abrams.
     
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    Well high expectations here,What we have seen so far isn't much out of charcter and people already start to connect, I wouldn't be to worried since we made it already trough some questionable casting choices in Star Wars before. And the blame is not only on Abrams they had a massive casting goining on for months, I think it is safe to say that it wasn't only his call.
     
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    Without question she has shown the widest range of emotions in the trailers:

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    Agree I say go unknown. I mean Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher were unknowns before Wars.
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    Like I said earlier you are delusional to judge her acting on 2 lines and facial expressions. Not saying she won't be great. But to say she's showing great range is well, premature.
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    You only proved that she had more screen time than the other actors.
     
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    Its not delusional it's literally right in front of your face.... I agree let's wait till the movie for final judgement but based on what we have SO FAR she's doing a great job.
     
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    Judging a performance from a trailer is silly. These are professional editors who are trying to sell you the movie, also there's like barely any dialogue. No one knows how good she will actually be as an actress until the movie is released.
     
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    How? Because first she looks questioned, then she's crying, now she's pissed off firing a blaster. You can't say she's doing a great job if we haven't seen her acting in the overall narrative. That's a very simple minded way to look at acting.
     
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    it's also a very simple minded way of reading to completely miss the fact that I said judging on what we have so far...
     
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    But we are talking about some lines Mayhew said. Maybe we just should wait and see. I
     
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    I'm saying we have nothing to judge on. JJ gave us 2 minutes of nothing but brief introductions to our leads and action sequence. He smartly made a trailer that made it exceptionally hard to critique any of the acting because he knows that's what would make or break the film. He wants us to wait and see the film in its entirety before we make any judgement.
     
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    I would like to think I am a film aficionado and have taken acting classes so would say what constitutes to great acting.

    Daisy showed BASIC levels of emotion that you should accept as standard.

    I mean you could say the same thing about Boyega from when he removes his helmet, lands on the planet, looks at Han, and when he's terrified of Kylo's saber.

    But let's have a benchmark? Part of acting is facial expressions but this isn't a silent movie. It requires dialogue, and we have not had one scene where we have seen the main actors deliver dialogue and see their faces while doing so.

    Hence...jury is still out.

    What I don't want is a case where Daisy may not be great, hoepfully not, but people feel the need to leap to her defense and just say she's great because they need her to be.

    Like the prequels. Those were NOT good films. All because they are called Star Wars does not make them good.
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    Bingo. And it's smart. If he came out and gave scenes with the acting and some people didn't like it, you kill some of that hype and excitement.

    Disney bought this baby for four billion. They are going to be VERY careful with what they show.
     
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    That's what I been trying to say. All I been saying is that we haven't been given nothing for us to judge as far as acting. It's all been obscured
     
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    I honestly didn't even take Mayhews comments to be about acting at all anyways. I thought it was more about her behavior on set when the cameras weren't rolling, and how she interacted around other cast members. I think what we have from the trailers is very promising even though apparently that's all being discounted by some armchair actors, which only goes further to prove my original point about poor Daisy and the world of online criticism she has found herself in. I would be nervous too with all the acting coaches out there dissecting my every move. That's a lot of pressure.
     
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