Poe Dameron is Force Sensitive

I was talking about an orchard where the fruit grow in straight lines on the trees, not the trees themselves growing in straight lines...I already mentioned that the trees could be in straight lines in a previous post. The picture needs to be of a tree where where the fruit grow in a straight line so a person only has to move in a straight line to pick them....since you argued that he must have just traveled in one straight line on the podracer.

Your giving your subjective opinion on the lack of force sensitivity of Poe (or for that matter Finn) does not convince me and I have no intention of trying to convince you either. I will stick to what the canon material tells me so far.

 

You are making great points Here.. And if you read the last issue of Poe's comic you can only add clues.

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It's not just the pod racer and the Force tree.

This section is full of references to both Luke and Anakin.

-The chores first : Uncle Owen to Luke (ep. IV) = Kess to Poe

- Patience. Poe's telling BB8 he has not patience. = Luke and Anakin.

- A farmboy (Luke and Poe) that will turn into the best pilot in the galaxy and will blew up a super weapon.

- The pod racer.

And the Tree getting singed that he had to heal.
At least this is foreshadowing Luke's journey in the ST.
But it could be more.

Side note... I still wonder why they called Poe the Black Leader = Darth Veder in legend...

I can only imagine that it is all made for fun...
The author just put in that a lot of cool easter eaggs.
Or this is the most spoilery bit we've got so far.

 

I hope Poe is a Force sensitive simply for the sake of continuity. I mean, have you seen the Takodana battle scene? There's no way in hell a normal pilot would be able to pull that off. Poe is a better pilot than both Anakin and Luke ever was, so. The only explanation would be: he's got the Force.

I hope Rey trains him.

 

I'm sure I am part of the minority here but I would prefer if he was not a force wielder. For the story to believable (for me at least) you have to depict normal people who are good at what they do without enhanced abilities. Poe is an amazing pilot - as was Han, Wedge, and others in the GFFA who were not visibly "blessed" with force abilities.

The story would jump the shark bit if Dameron picked up a lightsaber or force choked someone. As-is I have a hard time seeing Oscar Issac flying X Wings when he was managing oil trucks in NYC a few years earlier (see "A Most Violent Year").

 

Well, the series is already having issues with continuity. Poe won't be force sensitive

 

I hope so too. And if the rumor of his shooting down the FO destroyer's cannon emplacements while outrunning them with the accelerator turns out to be true, he is definitely doing something similar to the Takodana scene. He has to have force sensitivity to pull something like that off.

 

"Its a Jedi trait if he lived in the Republic he would have been identified early. "

Perhaps Luke's order doesn't have a blood test results of kids throughout the new republic. Perhaps he has such traits.

Not every natural athlete goes on to professional sports.

 

Hmmmm... maybe he is afterall

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/japanese-star-wars-may-accidentally-190538082.html

 

The force sensitivity debate aside, its highly unlikely that Poe would turn to the dark side....its more likely that he would get into trouble for breaking rules like he did in the Poe Dameron annual comic where Leia grounded him, and threatened to court martial him in another issue. While the comics aren't read by the general audience, they are obviously building up to him getting into trouble with the FO for his brilliant flying and with the resistance for breaking rules.

Also, it would be dumb to make him change sides after that brilliant spark comment and the rumors of him becoming a leader of the resistance.

 

I think its a definite possibility. However if he is, I hope its for the dark side as it would answer a couple of questions.

I was never that struck on the character, his dialogue or Oscar Isaacs performance. For me, he came across too 'nicey nicey' almost to the point of being disingenuous. This could be due to the character actually being that way inclined and has an ulterior motive or it could be just poor acting.

I also think there has to be a reason as to why he is positioned where he is on the poster.

I dunno I'm on the fence.

 

Obi-wan and Padme (mostly Obi-wan) have been positioned on the right side of the PT poster....they never turned dark or evil.

Let me bring up another thought here- there are rumors of dark Rey, angry Finn and Rose being a double agent....conversely there are rumors of Kylo saving Rey and Phasma turning on the FO and kiling Hux....in a movie that has a dark tone and deals with shades of grey, how are we so sure which is the truly dark side? Wouldn't it be more plausible that characters on all sides show aspects of the light and the dark?

I do see Poe going somewhat dark but turning into someone with an ulterior motive or turning into a traitor or terrorist goes against established canon in the novels and comics where all his actions are inspired by his parents (who were rebel heroes)....his whole canon logbook is full of how much they inspire him and how close he is to his family.

On the other hand, his spark speech and staring out shocked at the explosion in space sound exactly like post ANH Leia who wanted to risk her life to take the empire and Vader down with her when she saw her planet get blown up. I can see him going on crazy suicidal missions to destroy the FO, crashing his x-wing into FO ships etc, especially if Leia gets hurt...but join the FO? Highly unlikely.

 

Well... from a certain point of view we may say... he's got a raw power too.

Seriusly, I believe we can say "a raw... attitude" perhaps?

And that's the all point.

TLJ will test in this sense the character. He will be put on a crossroads
- go further and become Saw Gerrera
or
- temper your raw attitude and become a leader.

 

Everyone is obsess over the idea of character turning into bad or good. That's not the point of this movie! It's about growing up and become more then just pilot, trooper or savenger.

 

I agree with this completely.....Rey needs to become the best force user she can be, Finn needs to become the hero/big deal and Poe needs to become the leader...they could have moments where they are challenged but they will make it.

Poe will never become Saw Gerrera.....Leia herself sees him as a future leader and has been grooming him for the role. They have more of a familial relationship than even a mentor and protege relationship.

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by turning him into some angry terrorist killing civilians int he name of the resistance would mean Leia's effort and wishes for him to take over after her mean nothing....I doubt LF wold do that.

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Who is Poe emulating in the TLJ trailer? Why his mentor Leia of course....compare his "we are the spark" speech to this line from the canon comics.....

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I keep looking at the official movie poster. It is difficult to reconcile his position on the poster on the side with all the bad guys... like how are we NOT supposed to read into that. Every good guy is on the left, every bad guy is on the right... and there is Poe... on the right.

 

@panki I used Saw Gerrera just to emphatize the idea. I agree with you

 

Are we so sure Kylo remains a bad guy by the end of the movie or whether Phasma decides to turn on the FO? And does that mean Luke is really the big bad since he is in the position normally occupied by the big villains in previous movies?

I think all the characters, no matter which side, are going to show both elements or dark and light. Classifying groups into good= left side and bad= right side is a very simple way of interpreting what is supposed to be a movie where all the characters are challenged and put through a meat grinder.

 

Unless you are willing to extend this line of thinking to evil BB8, Hux, and Snoke's Praetorian guard (who are also on the right), I don't think it's a tenable position.

I don't disagree that the characters will show facets of dark and light, but that is not mutually exclusive to the question is the positioning of the characters on the official movie poster deliberate and does it follow a clear pattern. And the answer is yes. And I think we can make meaningful interpretations from that, and can miss meaningful context clues in ignoring it.

 

So the praetorian guard and Hux popping out of Leia's shoulder makes her part evil as well? I highly doubt it.

I honestly place zero stock on the good side and bad side theory. I'm more inclined to believe that all the characters together form a Vader mask representing his legacy still influencing the galaxy.