Should Disney erase PT from canon?

It wouldn't change anything, canon or not the films would still exist and newer generations will see on their own merits what the prequels are. The Phantom Menace doesn't have the same backlash it had years ago and many people either say it's good or it's not that bad but ultimately they know epiode I happened. If you erase all that happened in Revenge of the Sith completely alter Darth Vader's story what would you get? a couple of people appaulding but you would still hear jokes about Vader hating sad or killing younglings. You altered the story but you haven't changed anything. You might think the prequels did change everything with such things as "midiclorians" the truth is they haven't because when you hear Qui Gon Jinn explain what Midiclorians are you remember what the force really is when you heard Yoda explain it.

I don't say this don't erase the prequels because it's pointless I say this because the lesson is not to change the past, the lesson is to learn from.

 

That's just your opinion and while I don't agree with it I do respect it. Haters are always going to hate no matter how much you explain things to them yet it's funny that they want their points to be respected and they want to be right in saying that the PT was bad but when someone points out how bad TFA was then it's others who just have to be wrong. TFA was sloppy and it's full of bad writing, bad characters and JJ looked like he didn't even know what he was doing. Star Trek fans bash him for ruining Star Trek and many Star Wars fans are doing the same with his bad work in Star Wars. Now it all comes to this, if you want to have your opinion respected on why you think the PT was bad, you have to give the same level of respect to those who think TFA was bad. This is a matter of opinions and nothing more and I can't force my way of thinking on you in the very same way you can't do it to me. You loved TFA and think the PT was bad? That's good for you but learn to accept that there are others who don't agree and think the PT was excellent but thought that TFA was bad.

 

Hypocritical.

Intellectually dishonesty.

Point won and game over. The thing you fail to realize is other individuals now see your bias and you running away from this mental joust, another you started, and yet again, cannot finish nor just accept the fact you are wrong.

 

Observations does not equal evidence. And neither does internet comments lol

 

I'm with you Merman cause that's the problem with PT haters. All your points of view about the PT HAVE to be wrong but every single thing about TFA HAS to be excellent no matter how bad it really is. This is not debating, this is just trying to shove your opinion in someones face and telling them to shut up afterwards. TFA was indeed filled with bad storytelling, lame characters and bad choices made by JJ Abrams but PT haters are always going to deny this.

 

Yeah, I hate the midichlorians and thought that dumb, stuff like that and sitting around and looking out windows. It has some good bits, some fun stuff, some great characters even. It's different than the OT very much in style, but you shouldn't compare them to each other as such, just one is the background story for the other. The way the actors approached it differently in each trilogy, the fact they were more advanced with effects in the prequels probably maybe Lucas go a bit nuts. I think the Spec Eds are more annoying myself, especially the one for IV and VI, a few of the changes made some sense though.

 

Yes, observational evidence is in fact, evidence.

What world are you from? Science is based upon observational evidence.

"Well I just watched that cell divide under a microscope so there are two cells now". Your logic: "That is not evidence of two cells."

Yeah.... RIGHT.

 

Guys, the PT has a number of mistakes as well as TFA. Mistakes are subjective and nothing will please everyone. Lets not argue, 'stop the fighting and let diplomacy resume!'

 

You're equating internet comments as evidence of anything credible or useful from a trolling video meant to get page views and clickbait.

If that's the type of conversation you want....have at it lol

 

Indeed I am citing them and admitting them as evidence, BECAUSE THEY ARE.

Irrefutable fact that TFA faces a growing criticism.

You act as if I have interjected a personal opinion. Which I have not. I enjoy TFA. I do not call it the best, nor worst, SW movie.

Still nothing negates the observational evidence across the internet from many sources that a growing spread (a divide of cells so to speak) of criticism exists.

If you disagree, well you are intellectually dishonest and there is nothing more to discuss.

Your arguement equates to "The sky is RED" while it is clearly blue.

 

Depends if you really define internet comments on a clickbait YouTube video as a 'growing spread of criticism' worthy of any consideration whatsoever. lol

This ain't reddit. I think the standards of 'observation' are a bit higher. We're Star Wars fans, not reddit, facebook or YouTube comment trolls. lol

 

But with all due respect that you deserve BobaFettNY21, I have to ask, are you being fair or are you doing everything the common PT hater does? When haters bring points about how this person and that said the prequels were bad then it's valid but when someone does the same about TFA it's just a trolling video meant to get page views and clickbait? Why can't you be fair and accept that a lot of people disliked TFA? The evidence is there.






I am perfectly aware that there are many SW fans out there that greatly disliked the PT and this is super obvious and it's something I can't and will never deny but TFA fans have to do the same and accept that many SW fans thought TFA was really bad as well and this is something that can't be denied.

 

Never did not accept it, and nowhere do I not answer people with decent questions about TFA to alleviate their frustrations.

But the fact that no credible internet site comes up on those Google searches is telling, isn't it? lol Breitbart is the first one lmaorotf

 

TFA's characters are lame? And the prequels' characters were good? In what reality? Padme was a lifeless block of wood, Anakin was a whiny d*che. Nothing about them was remotely endearing or appealing. The acting was atrocious and the dialogue was even worse. And what was so compelling about the story of the prequels anyway? A bunch of idiots are tricked into letting a politician take over the galaxy by their sheer stupidity. Talk about bending over backwards to defend utterly bad movies.

And as for the TFA blowback criticism, every massively successful movie gets blowback. It happened to Titanic, Avatar, etc. A film that does as well as TFA did both popularly and critically gets a target painted on its back and it becomes en vogue to trash that movie with repetitive talking points parroted ad nauseam by every no name YouTube wannabe movie critic in existence.

 

They are worthy of consideration.

Considering it is a ludicrous assertion to assume every comment on the site is "trolling".

Present your evidence that every user reply is trolling and not of a mental dissent of taking a new position of opinion of the movie. However you cannot present that evidence because it is beyond your capability to do so.

I however can present my evidence, because I can safely assume not every user is "trolling", unless you are willing to call hundreds of thousands of people across the internet, liars. Which is an absurdity.

There is no conspiracy here, the evidence clearly is fact that TFA faces a growing criticism. To say otherwise denies the evidence and also presents the "Sky is RED" arguement.

 

Tearing Chapters 1, 2, and 3 out of the virtual book that is the overall Star Wars saga leaves such an incomplete story, in my mind.

But, you must do what you feel is right, of course.

So, enjoy what you will, anyone, but let us also remember there will always be those us, and not merely a few, who actually respect and admire these earlier portions of what we choose to believe is an incredible story.

Thankfully, the Star Wars galaxy is large enough so as to accommodate all Star Wars fans.

 

The sky can actually be red at times if one pays attention at the right time.

 

It really isn't an opinion to say that the main objective of TFA is to find Luke and the main objective of ANH is to destroy the Death Star.
That's just kind of the plot to both movies.

 

I guess my earlier post ^ was disregarded... 'So this is how liberty dies.. with thunderous applause'

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 17, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 17, 2017 ---

Edit: AHHH THE VOICE OF REASON RIGHT HERE^

 

Seeing as you decided to call me dishonest and hypocritical, I felt the need to finish this.

Your evidence is bunk.
I could pull up pages of praise from reputable sources on why TFA is good.
*key being reputable*

You took trollish internet videos of people desperate to get their name out there. Any video with SW in the title is going to have massive hits and views. That's unavoidable by name alone.
Secondly when anything is universally loved at first, then it will undoubtedly face backlash. Hipster effect, if you will. Disliking TFA to the point of the hyperbole used in your "evidence" is a clear sign of clickbaiting. It's an attempt to get eyes on your product.

If the videos were: TFA is pretty good. Not great and has issues, but it's okay. The clicks drop.
But you call it "OMG TFA IS WORSE THAN NAZIS AND JJ IS HITLER" and yeah, you're gonna get clicks for that.