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SPECULATION Significance of Ezra "Bridger" to the OT and ST?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Darth Cylon, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. Darth Cylon

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    Hey guys! I'm not positive if this has been discussed completely in past threads but I figured I'd open one up because I'm really curious to see what your opinions are on this matter. Over the past few days I've seen comments about Ezra that have led me to post this, so bare with me.

    For starters I'd like to discuss the last name of Ezra "Bridger". Bridger as in bridging the gap between not only the PT and the OT, but also bridging the gap between the OT and the ST. There is no doubt in my mind that this name was given to him for this reason, but I'm not positive what the bridge will be. His connection to the OT at the moment is more clear. It seems like Ezra, along with the crew of the Ghost, will ultimately play a role in the formation of the Rebel Alliance. Now I know we are only half way though season one but I already have questions I want answered. What happened to the crew during the OT? Will Ezra turn to the dark side? Or my favorite theory/question, Will Ezra and the crew of the Ghost be responsible for the stealing of the first Death Star plans in some way?

    It is obvious that Ezra has some role in the future of the ST. I have my own theories but two interesting theories have been floating around the Cantina the past few days. Those theories being that Ezra turns to the dark side and becomes the "Graverobber" holding Vader's burnt helmet and the other being that Oscar Isaacs character is playing an offspring of Ezra and Sabine. I'd like to hear from all of you what your opinions of these theories are and if you have your own theories, please share them. I'm sure there are plenty of us who would like to hear them.
     
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    I doubt we would see Ezra himself, at least not with us knowing his real name, in TFA, but possibly in a later episode. I just don't think they would give anything away with about 3.5 years left in Rebels as a show at the time that TFA will come out if you assume the series ends about the time of ANH. I could see some references showing up in TFA but nothing major. Then again, I could be wrong. We know all throughout the PT and TCW that Anakin becomes Vader, has twins with Padme, Yoda and Obi Wan survive, and Palpatine is a Sith Master who becomes Emperor.
     
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    Watch Ezra grow up into Biggs Darklighter.
     
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    I think he will be in the film. And there's an actor we hear nothing about his role in the movie: Miltos Yerolemou. Maybe Ezra is the Kyle Katarn of the movies: a Jedi Master and a great friend of Luke.
     
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    Anyone else think it is a strange coincidence that we have Ezra the helmet collector in Rebels and apparently someone who is in possession of Vaders helmet, among others, in TFA?
     
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    I like the idea of Ezra Bridger playing a role in the ST. I do see hints in Rebels that he could turn to the Dark Side ... and perhaps Ezra is the string that allows the dark side of the force to "awaken" again. However, there is another angle. We make an assumption in the OT: When Yoda tells Obi Wan, "No, there is another," everyone assumes he is talking about about Princess Leia. But what if that "other" is someone else unrelated to Luke. That would be an interesting twist.
     
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    I did some research and found out that Ezra if survives will be around 55 in TFA so I think that it is possible one of his children might be in the movie. and if he had a child with anyone it would most likely be sabine. If we do see him face to face i think he will not be very active considering his old age.
     
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    Did you know that Ezra is the same age as Luke & Leia? ;) They all have the same birthday.. EMPIRE DAY!
     
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    I did not that is interesting. thanks!
     
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    old age? lol. most of the main jedi you see are around that age, look at the emperor, he was able to cut down 4 jedi with ease....well not mace windu, hes another aged jedi.

    i think yoda himself was over 900 yrs old.

    age? lol, 55 isn't old.
     
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    True. But Yoda can jump and spin and make any 50 year old human look on in admiration, shock, sadness, and mental pain :p
     
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    i like the theory that they were on a mission to steal the death star plans and either died or got recruited.
     
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    I think this bears repeating for people wondering if Ezra will have any role in the ST. He's the exact same age as Luke and Leia. He wouldn't be very old at all. I think it's unlikely that any animated show will have any significant bearing on the movies but I could see him making a brief cameo in VIII or IX as a nod to fans.
     
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    Ezra and Kanan are probably going to show up down the line this year in the new Marvel comic. By the time of the ST premiere, we will be 11 comics in. Calling it now.
     
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    I would rather just have the characters contained to this show.
     
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    Not me.... I think the weaving of all of these stories is one of the coolest things to happen to Star Wars in a long time. Great time to be a fan!
     
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    Agreed.If they ARE in the ST,I hope they are not written in a way that only people who watch REBELS will know who they are.While I love Rebels,there are some people who just watch the films,and do not collect the comics,or watch the cartoons,and that would be unfair.
     
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    I have my own theories and shared with another Jedi forum, only to not get any attention.

    Ezra is a pretty new character. Extremely gifted, he encountered the dark side and saved his master from quite a villain the Inquisitor, before he knew much of the dark side. Few of them ever tried it, perhaps Yoda. Having Ezra's incompetence and youth, that speaks of a great leader to emerge. Universe is vast and surpass the one galaxy chosen for the Star Wars. I.e. Ezra doesn't have to die with the release of the new serials. He could be send farther away and we could have 2 sagas paralel to each other. Because we need the character of Ezra! We don't need another Luke or another Anakin, we need something better than them!

    If we assume the ALLPOWERFUL FORCE is unlimited in the universe and in every living creature, we should assume unlimited manifestations of this Force. Not limited to previous episodes and deadlocked scenarios, as Luke and his father. Not limited by Jedi order and absurd decisions at times. Moreover, the retro-timeline of Star Wars make some choices predetermined, as that of Anakin in episode 3. It doesn't follow from his actions he should be evil. He was forced to become a such. Rather the Jedi council should bear its own responsibility for bringing to power one man Palpatine, next to them, very well known. They gave him the empire almost without a struggle. In their mastery they had to envision the clone wars advance in time that they are staged in Palpatine's climbing towards the throne. The Jedi paid expensive with their blood for their obscurity and misjudgment.

    Ezra...is completely different from them. He has their powers and out-power them already at his age. He questions everything and doesn't even accept in principle jedi codes and rules, what to say to fulfill them to the letter. He is great!!!

    Seriously, I think Star Wars saga enters in a new period where it searches for other characters different from the polarized ones super-good and super-evil as seen enough. TV Clone Wars were a move in the right direction, although I don't understand why so many new evil societies and planets were introduced to us. Star Wars need heroes that will be followed, especially by our youngsters. In the good meaning, when every boy could buy a fake lightsaber in the store, he would also want to follow the jedi of his choice. Ezra must be a good example therefore. He plays much more important role than a cartoon character in the next Disney movie.

    He has to expel the darkness that he already encountered. He is meant to work in darkness for the good. Notice many of the episodes of Rebels are very dark background almost impossible to see figures! Why? Because they are meant to fight in the darkness (3 days of darkness theory?) The bravest ones are called to follow him. Many doctrines will fall dawn, including the old Jedi doctrine, including the one of the new Inquisitor who seems much more evil than the poor old man Palpatine.

    For now that is all I want to share, but there is much more to be said about that new character Ezra with name taken from a great Biblical prophet.
     
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    I don't buy it. So Vader isn't to blame for his choice of killing children, but we should blame the jedi order for being tricked? Also the force is created by life, why assume it is unlimited. Presumably a galaxy without life has no force.
     
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    I don't excuse Vader of killing anyone, especially the younglings. Still, Anakin had choices different from the one he ultimately did, based on what he showed in the episodes 1,2,3, and post factum the TV Clone Wars. The character of Anakin did not imply he must turn to the Dark Side. Of course we have a closed time loop in Star Wars, at least regarding to Anakin.

    Who had bigger responsibility for emerging Dark Side, he or the Jedi masters? It were they who allowed Palpatine to grow up in the shadow under the mask of benevolent Senator, secretly trained in Jedi skills. Anakin was only a child in Episode 1 from the far away planet, while Senator Palpatine already exerted influence over both Senate and Jedi order. Their short-seeing is inexcusable in a galaxy where they controlled both morals and their practical implementation by using force. They were not simply tricked by one man. Their dogmatic vision stopped them from seeing the truth and being effective corrective of the system for quite a long time. They allowed the Trade Federation to grow in what we already saw in Episode 4. Such small empire armed with droids and ships does not appear in one year. The Jedi could not imagine, or stop Palpatine to have ordered the creation of the Clone army decades earlier, and to play a dead jedi (Sifo-Dyas, or was he himself Sifo-Dyas and staged his own death, to emerge later as Palpatine). He was not stopped to have apprentice Dart Maul and to have de facto restored the Dark Side, under the noses of all-knowing masters in Coruscant temple. How didn't they feel the disturbance in the Force? It seems the Dark Lords are more sensitive than the good Jedi.

    Much of that happened long before Anakin was born and appeared on the scene. Of course that doesn't excuse Anakin for turning into Dart Vader. I don't mean that.

    But we also have the closed time loop of Episodes 4,5,6 followed in earthly time by the preceding episodes 12,3, followed in earthly time by the TV Clone Wars between Episodes 2 and 3. They all circle around the same characters, as in a closed time-space loop. That makes predestined characters.

    The Universe is more than a closed time-space loop. It is more than one galaxy alone populated by Jedi. Dead galaxy without life? Do you believe it or anyone else? I don't believe it is possible. Life is everywhere although may be not always in the forms we know.

    Now with Ezra and Rebels we have a real chance to break down that magic circle of time loops! I hope that is the intention of Lucas, Star Wars and Disney, to bring fresh air in the most popular saga in the last decades! Because what they do is not only films. They do moral teaching to youngsters, many of whom do not have other compasses to follow.

    I hope the new start is being given with Rebels and it will continue regardless of how the Episodes 7 and beyond would evolve. We already know there is a trespass there to the Dark Side.
    We don't really need another one with Ezra.

    Moreover, the dynasty established by Anakin (Dart Vader) - Luke - Lea - her children, is quite too much to be accepted in a Universe /galaxy having once 10,000 jedi knights (according to Kanan, in Rebels). The Force is indeed bigger than one family or one dynasty. Palpatine could be killed earlier, he was weaker than Dart Vader and Luke combined. He didn't have descendants. The offer of Dart Vader to his son Luke in Episode 5 was not that dark sided. It showed the good side of Vader-Anakin, at least towards his son. Much of earth's own history knows that kind of succession of power: from father to son, with the hope the son would be a better monarch than the father. But...are we going to promote monarchy in Star Wars?

    Do we really need that manifestation of Force only and its transmittance down the generations in the landmark Star Wars that set new better moral norms in society? Or we need an open ended larger understanding of what the Force is and how it manifests thru individuals like Ezra, not necessarily connected to one or several lineages. Ezra could be the turning point of the entire Star Wars saga.

    Whether appearing or not in the Episodes, Ezra and people like him influenced by the Force since their early age, could bring new dawn of a galaxy.

    We can have a new branch of the saga, starting with the Rebels, and showing a better manifestation of the Force, accessible to Common People, not only to predestined characters. It will serve as better example to our youngsters. Because what we have now as consequence of existing paradigm of the Force before Rebels, with all positives and negatives, it makes the Dark Lords more desired models for our kids. Dart Vader costume is preferred Halloween dress than let say, Luke. The good characters are at best unimpressive for our kids. Anakin, may be he is, but he turned bad. Is it what we want to be the example of our future generation? I guess, not.

    Therefore, the entire paradigm behind Star Wars characters needs a new fresh beginning, less elaborated and easier to be copied, that doesn't run bad after so many serials it played good and was copied by our kids (TV Clone Wars' Anakin).

    For now, Ezra is the best candidate, showing many qualities of common youngsters, PLUS a great influence of the Force. He has the potential to turn into that desirable hero to be followed, without turning bad as Anakin. We can talk for hours, but at the end of the day our kids choose the bad heroes for their models to be followed. Why? Perhaps the good characters (Luke, Obi Wan, etc) simply lack qualities wanted by our kids? It is not only intellectual essay, it is the feeling and the desire to follow this or that model. For now, the Dark Side influence in Star Wars is winning over the minds and hearts. I hope that will be reversed. Or may be explained what exactly the dark and good sides are, not necessarily in terms of religious doctrine known from earth. If every good, young, gifted hero is turning to the dark side, that speaks volumes about what kind of good side it is and what kind of values are promoted as good. Perhaps there is something wrong in Yoda's teaching, if so many of his padawans ended up on the other side. Perhaps Yoda's side is not perfectly good then. We need a redefinition of what the Force is, and what is good and bad, in Star Wars saga. Apart of the killing of innocents in Episode 3, all the rest of time Anakin did mostly good, in both Episodes and TV Clone Wars.

    We still don't know how the filmmakers will evolve Ezra character in the next seasons. I hope they understand Star Wars are not just the next Hollywood serials. They are already a part of our modern culture, for good or for bad.
     
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