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OFFICIAL NEWS Star Wars’ Upcoming Movies Will Be Set Around The Sequel Era

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by DailyPlunge, May 27, 2022.

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    OMG, your post made my protein shake spurt come out my nose... almost had to make another one... oh I wasn't prepared that... anyway no more derailment from this crazy old wizard, staying on course. Great thread btw @DailyPlunge
     
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    Do you think they will go with another school of Jedi, following in Luke's footsteps? or kind of back away from that and embrace something... Grayer? I don't know exactly how to say what I have in mind. But it seems recently they've been washing into those waters, with good bad guys and bad good guys.

    I'd honestly love to see something that taught force users both Jedi and Sith concepts.

    Also, I really hope that at least 1 or 2 of our established characters make it in to whatever film they end up doing in the ST era. I think the biggest mistake they could make would be to completely pivot away from Rey, Finn, Ben Solo, etc.
     
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    One of my favorite Legend novels is I, Jedi written by Micheal A. Stackpole. Corran Horn, a x-wing pilot is searching for his long lost wife; joins Luke's Jedi academy on a quest to becoming a Jedi, in order to save his wife, so yeah after all these years its great that the LFL is ready to tackle the attachment issue.

    Dark Journey written by Elaine Cunningham another favorite Legends novel featuring Jaina Solo will hopefully be cherry-picked from old lore to further Rey's Jedi order and look.
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    I agree, there might not be a Jedi academy but a grey Jedi version of Rey. We have witnessed Jedi change with experience, I see this being touched on more so.... Fulcrum.
     
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    Hot off the presses from Bespin Bulletin is a casting rumor:
    Interesting, Yahya is 36 and a bit older than I expected.
    What do you mean by Grey Jedi? Lucasfilm/Filoni seem pretty adamant that such a thing doesn't exist. You're either light or dark and the Jedi are for certain light.
    I think there will be a relaxing of the strict attachments thing. They're already laying the groundwork for this with Mando/Grogu. Romantic relationships between Jedi wouldn't be forbidden. For the order to restart they'll have to be more flexible about what it means to be a Jedi. It doesn't mean they'll throw everything out the window. I would really like to see the temple on Coruscant at restored.
     
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    Loved Lindelof's HBO Watchmen series, shocking to say the least. I've read the Watchmen graphic novel several times over the years. I own the absolute edition, I own the omnibus prequel edition, I own several graphic novel anniversaries, never in my life would I imagine that he would go the way he did. He told the story he wanted to tell. He had no intentions for a season 2 no matter how it was received.

    So yeah, what does he have planned for Star Wars? Can't be too crazy cuz Filoni's in the writer's room, but I think we're in for a wild ride, indeed. The way Finn/Boyega was received online for TFA trailer way back in November 2014, feels like payback... Yahya is a complete 360. Lindelof got the chops to pull it off... If the rumors are true...
     
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    "First comes the day, then comes the night. After the Darkness, shines through the Light. The difference, they say, is only made right; By the resolving of Gray through refined Jedi sight."

    This poem, at the beginning of the novel of TFA, pretty much foreshadowed a new order of 'Grey' Jedi - it was one of the reasons reylos honestly thought that Rey and Kylo/Ben would come together and create a new version of Force users, that combined the Light and Dark side of the Force - no more Jedi or Sith, but a balance that would end the conflict forever and usher in a 'new era' of Star Wars.
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    Yup, all those possibilities erased and back we go to the endless cycle of 'good' versus 'evil'...no 'growth', no new way of looking at things, just the tedious stale old 'people need to be perfect, soulless, emotionless' Jedi order which led to their downfall in the first place. Nothing new and interesting at all. What a shame.
     
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    I don't know if I would say that foreshadowed an entire order of Grey Jedi, but rather one who was caught in both the light and dark (Ben) and ended up being brought back through his mother's and Rey's influence. At the time I don't think either would have called themselves a true Jedi, but they did have some training.

    I guess I was kind of getting at, will the Jedi Order (as we have always known it) continue? Will they still be called Jedi? Which seems crazy to ponder. And yet, there are 9+ movies showing how they either have too much power and yet not enough. Too much influence in government and they're supposed to be neutral. It reminds me of that line from Mando, when Mayfeld is questioning Din about his Mandalorian Ways: "I don't know. Seems to me like your rules start to change when you get desperate."

    But in all honesty like you said I doubt anything drastic changes, so probably would be more in line with this:
    Although I'm not entirely sold on Coruscant, as much as I loved it. Luke's school we see in Mando and Ahch-To are much better locations IMHO, but Coruscant obviously has its advantages as well.
     
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    You know....I remember Daisy Ridley once mentioning post TFA that she 'didn't think Rey would be a Jedi.'
    Things change.
     
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    Seems like a reading comprehension problem "the difference, they say, is only made right; By the resolving of Gray through refined Jedi sight." "Resolving gray" doesn't seem like a move towards the grey.
    Huh?
    I don't know if the Jedi need to have their HQ there, but after 9 saga films the sting of Anakin walking into the temple is still there. Palpatine even makes the temple his home. It would be need to see it returned to the Jedi somehow.
     
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    I would be very interested in seeing two Jedi schools. One from Rey, and one from Finn. Granted this would be further down the road, since Finn was just beginning his journey on the Jedi path. But it feels like there is just so much potential there.

    They would still be best friends, but also rivals. They are both natural leaders so it wouldn't be out of line for either character. They each have their strong points and weaker moments, but they know how to feed off of each other. I wouldn't want it to be purely a "divided we fall, united we stand" type of theme but sure there is obviously some of that to explore.

    And then of course there is Poe, the comedic third wheel who is caught in between and forced to choose sides constantly.

    Can someone just go ahead and get this drama/sitcom up and running??
     
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    This should be standard on every post. :D

    I see this as a current problem for the franchise. At least it was during the time of the ST, which basically was the mainstream re-introduction of Star Wars to the general population and current generations. I think we are trending towards that problem sorting itself out, though.

    So. How long until we cross that bridge?? Most super-fans have been such for damn near half a century now. When a new movie is released, it shouldn't feel like the first time we are seeing a SW film. Some assumptions need to be made on the production end of things where they knew we've done our homework. I think it needs to happen sooner than later, and I think we are finally getting there with the recent D+ shows. They are starting to pull characters from the animated shows into live-action, they've pulled Cobb Vanth from the novels. Let's take the big leap! I don't know Marvel that well but I'd be willing to say that they don't hold the hands of fans anymore. If you ask me it's time for Star Wars to stop doing the same.
     
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    I'm fine with them leaving this era once and for all because I'd like to see Disney to make SW films without a single character that we have seen before.


    Completely free from any of the SAGA chains, only the established GFFA lore to adhere to.... show us what you've got.... impress me.


    Tell me a great story, one that I haven't seen before.... just like George did.
     
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    I think you may get your wish.
     
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    That sounds a little contradictory. What’s the difference between being chained to the saga and adhering to established lore. The saga did a lot of the heavy lifting in establish that lore.
     
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    Isn't that Pablo Hildago's and the writers room's job, to consult with directors and all media so everything can be connected? Isn't that why they got rid of Expanded universe/Legend books, and they can still cherry-pick from.
     
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    Nobody has ranted with a decent inside scoop about films/ scripts not matching since Mark freaked out on JJ in between TFA/TLJ, so I guess its better.:)
     
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    IMO, the attitude of Pablo Hildago and other LucasFilm staff like him are the reason why Kathleen Kennedy gets so much grief from the fanbase.
     
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    Attitude?

    The guy tries to answer as many questions and illuminate as many connections as he can. But then when some fans try to make it all about them and impose their head canon he declines to humor their notions of what should/shouldn't happen and gently pushes back. And of course he upsets some fans when he references some part of the lore or BTS which undermines their claims that something would/could never happen etc.
     
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    FWIW I have interacted with Hidalgo on Twitter for going on 7 years and always found him courteous and funny. Pretty much every "controversy" around him is the product weirdos online and not Hidalgo. He's been hounded to the point of closing down his personal account, received threats the FBI had to investigate, and now it's to the point he doesn't feel safe enough to attend Celebration. It's disgraceful.

    Again, off topic. Can we please stop steering good threads to "INSERT" gripe of choice? It's beyond tiring.
     
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