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Okie dokie. Cool you 'know' him. I don't know him -- and for the record, I'm no fan of SW Theory either. But I thought his tweet dissing Theory for his 'emotional' reaction to the return of Luke Skywalker in Mando S2:E8 was incredibly bizarre coming from anyone, let alone a LucasFilm employee.

Seriously, how does THAT kind of classless behavior build excitement for future SW movie projects or enhances his boss's stature with fans?

 

I sometimes think we fans are our own worst enemies.
I didn't realise how 'toxic' a fanbase can be until I got accused of racism (for liking Kylo Ren more than Finn), then had a gentleman tell me how delighted he was that Ben Solo's death had made me depressed; according to him it served me right for liking Han Solo's killer (Kylo Ren again).

Still, at least there were no 'I hope you kill yourself' comments, such as I've seen other people get....be grateful for small mercies..

 

No such tweet exists. Someone used SWT getting emotional to try and prove some sort of point about something else and PH ironically replied to them "Emotions are not for sharing". He wasn't commenting on anybody's reactions. Emotional or otherwise. Just trying to keep one of the many people who seem to seek his endorsement while arguing with him at arms length.

Inevitably, the lack of an endorsement of some super fan's reaction was twisted into an "attack" by those with an agenda.

The only person I've heard "attacking" fans (other than jokingly by Harrison and Carrie) is George Lucas. On several occasions.

 

Celebrities have made -- and subsequently delete -- stupid tweets all the time that get blown up on Social Media. If a tweet from a LucasFilm staffer can be 'twisted' into an attack, it begs the question: why was it posted in the first place?

Unfortunately, this is part of the fan undercurrent that has LucasFilm execs treading lightly on new SW films. Personally, I think the SW mega-blockbusters we're going to see in the future are going to evolve from the TV side of the Mouse House.

 

That logic is basically flawed. It's like wondering what the victim might have done to make the psychopath want to murder them. Anything can be twisted into anything by someone with an agenda. And on twitter it usually does.

It's off topic anyway so...

 

Wow. Hildago was....the victim?

I could have sworn this 'controversy' started with a tweet Hildago wrote and posted. Sarcastic or not, a professional (in the Disney organization no less) doesn't behave the way he did. It was wrong. Period. End of Story. In this social media age, it's about time people quit excusing unprofessional behavior.

He apologized and it's an old story now. But to say it's 'off-topic' in a discussion of the future of SW movies (whatever era) is head-in-the-sand type behavior. There are A LOT of reasons why the movie side of the SW house has been quiet since TROS came out. Fortunately, the franchise's salvation -- and movie future -- has surfaced on the Disney+ of the house.

 

Considering the flak he got post the PT, can't say I blame him.....

 

You're mistaken. The controversy was contrived by people resentful at him not endorsing their views.

His response was totally benign but the people who adopted indignation at it were already hostile towards him. It wasn't unprofessional. That's just an undue overreaction. It's not Hidalgo's job to massage the egos of content providers on twitter.

He had to apologise because of a campaign of utterly false "Disney employee attacks fan." takes on twitter. But as far as I can see he's no less "sarcastic" on there today. It's just that ordinarily most people can post and read sarcasm without much fuss unless someone has a beef with someone.

Believe me. A few fans getting their noses put out of shape over nothing is waaay offset but the engagement that fans and filmmakers enjoy with PH on twitter and elsewhere.

 

Hey, if you guys want to defend the guy's mistake, by all mean hang in there.

Listen, I have no dog in this fight but you can bet your last dollar that if I were a Lucasfilm exec, I wouldn't be posting -- sarcastic or otherwise -- on a SW fan forum, public or "private." (If the tweet got out, obviously it wasn't so private.) I'd naturally want to follow what SW fans were talking about but as far as my own contributions, I'd keep my keyboard quiet. If, as you guys claim, his post was manipulated by the Darkside of the Internet, ALL THE MORE REASON for Hildago not to hand over his own bullets for those evil-doers to shoot him with.

He had no business posting about SWT reaction video (sarcastic or otherwise) given his position in the company. He's supposed to be a professional, not a fan. This was another one of Disney/Lucasfilm's unforced errors.

 

I'm giving you the facts of the matter which you don't appear to have. You're only repeating the narrative created in the aftermath.

This wasn't on any fan forum. It was on twitter where scores of Lucasfilm employees, up to the most senior levels, post daily. (PH is not an executive by the way) And where some of them are sadly subject to the ire and whims of a small section of the fan base.

Again this is factually incorrect as I have already told you. Someone attempted to use a video of SWT reacting to something as leverage to get PH to take their side in some argument which Hidalgo wasn't even interested in. He tried to discourage them from doing so.

The idea that Lucasfilm employees should not be allowed to post on twitter because of the "dark side" of the fandom is an alarming suggestion. Particularly since the only people really upset or aggrieved in this are those dark siders.

Almost as egregious as the person who attempted to shanghai PH on twitter was SWT milking it for sympathy under false pretenses since PH neither viewed nor commented on the video or SWT. In fact his response was a decline to comment.

IiRC, the person who instigated this had hijacked a conversation in order to get PH to agree that "Chapter 16 of Mandalorian was what the sequels should have been,.. Favloni should be in charge.. not Kennedy,... and they owe us all a big apology....Here's someone's reaction to Luke arriving as proof." Need I say more?

 

I don't?

You mean it's NOT a fact that Pablo Hildalgo made a tweet that he later deleted and subsquently apologized for posting?

 

Equally if not more important are the nature of the post and the context in which it was posted.

You incorrectly stated that he dissed SWT on a fan forum that he shouldn't have been on. So by definition you're not in full possession of the facts.

 

WHOA. You're making this personal now? For the record, I think I've posted here long enough for most SW fans to know I'm interested in discussions, not fights. You can disagree with my take without resorting to attacking me personally.

My point was -- and still is -- that a Lucasfilm employee of Hildago's stature shouldn't be making Tweets that embarrass his company. You can excuse it by saying, "But, but, but.." all night long. But the fact was a Tweet he put out became a PR hit for Disney/Lucasfilm. 'Nuff said.

 

Lucasfilm or LucasFilm?

 

But his company aren't embarrassed. That's just something you've invented. The facts of the matter are nothing to be embarrassed about. Someone choosing to mitigate any offence or controversy does not embarrassed. And just because some people are already resentful toward you doesn't mean you are or should be embarrassed.

You claimed that your issue initially was that the attitude of people like Hidalgo, who you falsely claim chose to go on a fab forum and dissed SWT (neither of which are true), is why some people have a problem with Kennedy. Now you're saying that you are concerned about the company, and presumably its head Kathleen Kennedy, being embarrassed. But clearly your refusal to even acknowledge the facts that are missing from your preferred narrative that disprove the false claims of dissing people shows that you retain your basic position is that PH is one of the bad buys.

There is a section of the fandom who will find issue or stoke controversy about something SW related, sometimes posted by LFL employees. Every day. So the only way to avoid "embarrassment", by your logic, is to never tweet anything or say anything that someone else will repeat on twitter, in case someone else who already has an agenda to be hostile toward you and your company decides to dishonestly create controversy surrounding what you said.

Clearly you don't simply take issue that it was a PR hit. I'm going to credit you with being aware that the people who tried to accuse Hidalgo are happy to make controversy about anything. As they do on a daily basis. Your initial complaint is clearly the actual truth. That you see Hidalgo, along with Kennedy, as the enemy of the fans. Since this is the transparent aim of the people who falsely accused him.

One of the reasons that this was not an embarrassment to PH or Disney is that the ones stoking the controversy, and SWT, are not even that big a deal, relatively speaking. In the wider scale of things. One of the reasons that PH attracts the ire of some super fans is the fact that he is sort of a big deal in helping the filmmakers at ILM maintain continuity and have a a source of lore to help them thread connections between and within various star wars projects. And some fans are quite clearly envious and resentful of his perceived stature as an official fan with some sort of actual authority that other fans don't. Clearly they feel that they should be as big a deal as they perceive PH to be. It's no surprise at all that he is in some fan's crosshaurs. And the chances of them taking issue with him are not reliant on him saying anything at all really.