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SPOILER TBoBF ep.1 - A Stranger in a Strange Land

Discussion in 'The Book of Boba Fett' started by Angelman, Dec 29, 2021.

  1. Angelman

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    This is where we'll discuss the current episode, spoilers, predictions, connections and all. :cool:

    Let the discussion begin! :D



    (I'll join y'all later tonight, my time)
     
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    Cool, thanks for creating it ;).

    Overall, some good moments, others more weak.
    It really starts very well. Those shots... And what we were all waiting for. Could have been longer but it's fine.
    It really doesn't happen too much in the chapter but I guess it sets an interesting direction.
    I hope we will have the 2 timelines in every chapter, although the flashbacks have the weakest points.

    Some spoilers, of course.

    Pros
    -The beginning and how it ties with ROTJ and TM aspects.
    -Every Jabba's Palace shots
    -The fact we have a lot of flashbacks
    -Action in roofs
    -Lars home being attacked
    -The 2 lead actors are good
    -Boba trying to make its place in there
    -Chorus in soundtrack, with Morricone vibes (although at some points it seems too much to TM)

    Conts
    -I would prefer to see a skinnier Boba in flashbacks, although is nothing to worry too much about.
    -Tusken Raiders are very bad portrayed. Lack of (the importance of) body language every single one. The young one with the stick is really bad.
    -I prefer the flashbacks to be thoughts inside tank, not nightmares/dreams per se.
    -Some effects are weak.


    PD was that 4-LOM?
     
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    Question for those who’ve watched…

    Was that Matt Berry (of The IT Crowd, Toast of London and What We Do In The Shadows fame) voicing 8D8?
     
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    One word reaction: Eh.

    First main note: Oh, so we have Daimyos in Star Wars now! (Daimyos were vassals to the Shogun in Japan from about the 1300s up until the Meiji Era in the late 1800s. This is probably foreshadowing that Jabba, while a major crime boss of his own, may have someone even higher up that he answers to.)

    First watch review:
    This first episode of The Book of Boba Fett is a big "meh" to me. Then again, I was never sold on the character and even less so on the premise of the show. It feels like this show is built around a bad-Mamma Jamma that we're all supposed to think and know is a bad-Mamma Jamma. But the show fails if you don't like, care, or know about Boba Fett. I was constantly trying (and probably failing) to put myself in the shoes of someone who maybe didn't grow up knowing who Boba Fett was or missed how he was the same person who was in "those old Star Wars movies." Maybe this was someone whose first Star Wars experience was The Mandalorian and is only watching this because it was recommended next. Maybe it's an S.O. watching it with their partner, who didn't really explain who the character is or why they're doing what they're doing. Because I sure wasn't rooting for Boba during any of this.

    Ming-Na Wen is always a win though, so I'll definitely keep watching for her...assuming they don't go the stereotypical "I'm going to usurp you because I don't like your new way of doing things" route.

    The CGI was pretty hit-and-miss on my iPad, but the landscape and city shots were amazing. That's something Live Action Star Wars has always done well and I always appreciate - the costumes and creatures and walks through the cities are always filled with so much variety and diversity of things, that I can't help but want to walk down the street and talk to people. I want to see what their lives are like (and maybe get some fashion tips along the way)!

    Overall, this was a 6.5-7/10 opening episode. That's not bad, and it leaves plenty of room for the show to grow! (Mando and TBB did start out stronger, but it's not a demeaning statement to BoBF - many shows I enjoy and have enjoyed had pretty mediocre pilot episodes at best.)

    Other notes:
    There are ninjas in Live Action Star Wars now! I'm not sure how I feel about this, to be honest. I'm not surprised or mad we have them, but it felt a little shocking to me. It's just that I never thought we'd get this part of Japanese media in our Star Wars. Or at least not like this. Granted, this is far from the first time we've had ninjas appear in Star Wars - the Quarzites in The Clone Wars (Season 4 Episode 20, "Bounty") are an example of some.
    Flashback Boba's strength is really situational. Present-Day Boba is clearly weaker, but that's fair, after all he's been through.
    The fight scenes in this are...decent. They aren't terrible, but they aren't great either. Then again, good fight scenes are hard to come by these days...

    Definitely true! I may not be too keen on Boba as a character, but Temuera's dynamic with Ming-Na Wen is a very good one.
     
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    It was alright. Mostly flashbacks, which is good, a lot of questions answered. I liked how they didn't make Fett overpowered, he had some struggles. The Sarlacc made him pretty weak, for years to come.
    I like that they added Max Rebo, but they still screwed up his anatomy.
    The ninja scene was weak. With all the gadgets and jetpack he has he should have been able to take those guys out easily. He could take out an entire platoon of stormtroopers, but not a handful of thugs. But at least he wasn't overpowered.
    I think the ninjas are from the Twi'lek spa, or whatever it was, but most likely they're the mayor's guys.
     
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    yes it was lol. and hopefully there will be plenty more of him to come, he seems to know a lot about how the palace used to be run so a useful sidekick
     
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    Max Rebo, as far as I know, was killed in Sail Barge explosion too (they were performing there during the scene).
    Here I assumed is one of their species, specialist in playing that organ I guess XD. That's why here has a diferent anatomy.

    I can understand how Bib Fortuna surived being the right hand of Jabba, but also Max Rebo band...


    I have been a Boba Fett fan since ROTJ, but I agree with your rating too. As a fan there are a couple of aspects I think could have done better.

    Not bad, but not spectacular.
    The Mandalorian started a little better, at least visually.
     
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    No one dies in star wars, thats why the show exists. Whether it was max or not is beside the point, they still screwed up the ortolan anatomy.
     
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    Hmmm. I waited decades to finally see Boba escape the sarlac. What was finally delivered was underwhelming and displayed a serious lack of creativity. Also, no human being would be able to burrow their way up through tons of sand to the surface of a sand dune - flashback Kill Bill Vol. 2 - Uma Thurman grave scene. Virtually impossible.

    I'm in full agreement with @NinjaRen, @MandoChip about the look of the show (so far). It's way too clean. It's so clean that it's borders shiney.

    They witness a gang of thieves steal water from the moisture farm, leaving the residents for dead before departing. Instead of just going to to the moisture farm to collect water that's literally left spewing from a spicket, they instead turn to go dig for tiny water pods? That made no sense whatsoever. Must be a tusken thing.

    I thought the transdoshan in Jabba's palace had a cool creepiness about him/her/it. My only problem was the clarity with which it spoke. No way it could speak with such humanistic clarity with a mouth like that. They should have kept it TESB style which was much more realistic for that species.

    The club scene was probably the high point in the episode for me. Other than that I was bored and silently frustrated. However I'm optimistic that it will get better as the show progresses.

    @LadyMusashi Yes the Gamorian guards proved loyal and held it down. That was a plus for me as well.
     
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    It's Star Wars, dude should've died when he was stranded on the desert for that long regardless. However, this is fiction real world logic doesn't always have to apply. Also, he had a flamethrower. I mean, I dunno I think it implies it 'burned' the sand, so to speak.
     
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    Whenever I read something like this from a fan, I have to ask: do you not know what story you are watching? Literally, none of these people are human. At the very best, the are human-like. But in a galaxy far, far away, who are we to say what human-like beings are capable of? Also, space fantasy? Real world logic and limits do not apply.
     
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    Felt more of a 40 minute prelude rather than an episode in its own right.

    Some nice moments though, hope they get away from the flash backs next episode and get into they get into the story a bit more
     
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    Exactly. I agree too. Trailers looked so clean. That's why I have seen the episode with a lower quality (720p resolution), to see more grain.
    Robert Rodriguez TM chapter was the weakest visually. Although I don't like much his style for Star Wars, this chapter could have been worse.

    Agree in some parts of escaping too. Could have been longer with more details.

    Also didn't like leaving the 2 prisoners with that silly young Tusken.
     
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    For me...IMO, even for AGFFA that's lazy writing. Human like. Ok. Fine. Our human like friend has trouble with a few street thugs but has no problem at at all with several thousand tones of sand. They could have put some creativity into that whole scene. For myself there are elements such as lazy writing that I simply can't attribute to "fantasy".
     
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    I'm surprised out of all the hard to believe things in Star Wars, this one breaks immersion.
     
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    Some of you lot seem to have overly high standards, haha.

    I personally loved it. Was really looking forward to it, and am not disappointed. Can it get better? Of course, but in my opinion, this was a strong and very enjoyable start setting things up nicely.

    The only thing I didn't like was those Boston Dynamics robot dogs :D Felt a bit out of place.
     
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    I'm not trying to be negative here or spoil anyone's fun. That's not my intention. Perhaps I am holding my standards to high. I wanted more from the sarlac scene. For years I've asked myself, "man wow, how the hell is Boba going to get out of this?" I just had envisioned him getting out of it in a way that would wow me. I wasn't wowed at all. I want star wars to wow me. Like Han coming out of carbon freeze or the Millennium Falcon barely evading asteroids etc. etc..
     
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    My very first viewing garnered a similar reaction.

    But -- upon a second viewing -- I quickly came to appreciate it for the unique story it is telling. This episode was our first live-action SW since The Mandalorian S2:E8. That meant we were coming off arguably four of the best SW TV episodes ever back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Given that, the expectation level going into this season premier was off-the-charts. But as a pilot, it certainly wasn't bad and had its fair share of cool moments -- especially upon my second viewing.

    I would rate it a solid 7 out of 10. (yoda)
     
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    It was a good intro, but I was hoping for a longer episode and it lacked anything that really grabbed you and said "I need to see the next one right now!" .... Not sure if its fair to compare to Mandalorian, but after Ep. 1 I was thinking "Oh this is not going to be anything like I thought it would be at all" and after 35 minutes of Boba, so far it's exactly the Fett biopic I anticipated. (hopefully that means the fireworks are just around the corner!)

    This all likely sounds much more negative than I intended and I'm still super excited to see how it plays out. I'm sure when all is said and done this will be minor guff and it's more just a result of us only having one small piece to the puzzle.
     
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    Not much to say about the first episode. Solid. I'm more interested in where he's going than where he's been, but that story has be told based on how Lucas left it. This version of Fett is fragile which I like compared to Mando. I hope we don't spend too much time on the flashback stuff. Biggest question after the first episode is what boss were those crimson looking fighters working for.
     
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