The Force Awakens - "The Worst Movie Of All Time" (Video Review)

You have no clue what nor how much training Kylo had. He went serial killer as a side project. He has Vader in him, yes but not complete training.

Rey is no different than Luke training wise.

 

Hey guys.

I edited my posts. *Sidious voice* ALL OF THEM.

I wasn't aware I came off kind of arrogant, and for that I apologize.

However, in the spirit of things, I just have to calmly disagree.

Luke was a wetnose. Failed at everything. Thrashed around in the Cantina. Tusken Raiders. He was lucky to destroy the Death Star honestly. Rey was a prodigy. I just don't see the Star Wars in someone not being able to grow as a character like Luke. Or they will have to exhibit some serious flaws in Reys character in the next movie.

 

yeah i never said kylo had any amount of training but that he was trained. The downside is that we dont know if rey ever had any training at all with her being more a mystery to us than luke was in ANH. The difference with Rey and Luke is the the saber "called" to her and shr was able to magically use it where Luke had obi-wan and the force help guide him instead a target...big difference there in my opinion.

 

I think JJ was just trying to tell it in a different way when it comes to the saber.

Obi Wan told the history, JJ was trying to do it visually. The thing is is he left out some important parts to it. Was the saber calling Rey good story telling, maybe. I think it brought up a million questions and was nice visually

 

Still I just want to point out Force Awakens is having an internet repercussion that has reached the ears of JJ, Kathleen Kennedy, and the cast.

There is a push for a more coherent and better written story. Do I say Force Awakens is a horrible movie? No. Is it great? No.

I think thats what people are just trying to get across. We want better.

I just want a universe bound by the rules and lore. Something that erked me was Rey not using the hand gesture like every other Jedi before her. (Nevermind her using a Jedi mind trick without any seemingly knowledge).

That just seemed rude to me. If you watch every original and prequel the hand gesture was done. Yes even Luke did it in Jabbas Palace. Yet Force Awakens was the first movie to feature a mind trick with no hand gesture.

 

but the way it "called..." it kinda felt like a "midichlorian" moment to me.

 

I don't understand what you mean. How does it seem that way? It didn't test her blood or anything.

I mean we don't really even know why it did call to her. Was it fingerprinted so when she touched it it would show these things?

It is more mysterious to me than a feeling of midichlorian type thing.

 

What I meant was more that in the way we think of midichlorians and hoe ranom and unwarranted they were and didnt make anysense, the same thing is what I felt with Rey.. I think I read somehwere last year or this year about how the saber DID call to her somehow making the force more mysterious and it didnt make sense to me in the same way the midichlorians make sense to me.

 

The trolling is great in this thread.

 

I'm sorry to inform you, but Rey is not a Jedi. So the "rule" simply does not apply here.

 

Mmmmm judge the Force by gestures you do.

So jedi without arms can't use a spiritual force present in all living things to effect the weak minded?

The sabre (force) calling to Rey doesn't make sense. How is that different than Luke getting a weird vibe from the dark side tree and then go fighting a physical opponent that looks like Vader but his face is under the mask.

 

Well if she isn't a Jedi how did she do a JEDI mind trick? Come on man, just admit, the movie wasn't perfect. They missed the gesture because of ineptness not some mystery hidden script plot point we have yet to see.

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I couldn't tell you if an armless Jedi could do a mind trick or not. Im just saying, to me it was a big deal because it was established in every movie prior. Its almost like removing the Windhelm scream if you catch my drift.

 

She used the Force.

 

Everyone who debates Force Awakens and takes a contrary opinion is accused of trolling. The quick and easy path that is.

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Sigh... only a sith deals in absolutes, Im absolutely positive about that.

If she isn't a Jedi how did she use the force?

 

One have to be Force- sensitive to use the Force.

 

Yesterday, I heard a critic say, If the Han solo film isn't like Smokey and the Bandit and has fan easter eggs he will be very disappointed. The film hasn't been released yet and already its being bashed. Give it a chance b4 u pick it apart.... What I love about Lucas was that he told HIS story.

 

Rey knows how to fly ships, has technical skills and is attuned to the force like no other. Sounds familiar doesn't it. But that's not lazy writing, it's the deployment of classical trope derived from mythology in order to highlight regal/special genealogy.

Rey cannot be a Mary Sue: Mary Sue's never show emotional vulnerablity.

TFA is not a carbon copy of a New Hope, but it does engage in a dialogue with the three originals in order to fashion something new. Furthermore the composition of the three acts and in fact their narrative structure couldn't be more different. BB8 did not contain any secret information which would have allowed Rey to blow up Starkiller base. If you can prove that BB-8 did and that in fact her actions were incremental for blowing up Starkiller Base, then you've won. Give it a try.

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Always remember there is a different reality: the real reception of a movie, and the reception of the "comments section". The two are not the same thing. The biased patrollers of the comment sections or negativity trolls only represent a very minute part of the audience. Don't worry. It is only to bad that comment sections (youtube for instance) do not allow us to see the actual number of dislikes a certain "best comment" received.