SPECULATION The Official Leia Discussion Thread

First of all... everyone thinks she is an Organa, not a Skywalker... they don't know she is Luke's sister or Vader/Anakin's daughter, so yeah... her political clout originally comes from the noble family she was "born into"

Even if they did know she was from that family, they wouldn't know for a fact she was a force-user...

Finally, yeah... freakin yeah... I think there might be an element that would try to use it against her (which might be a great plot line for the movies) but there is enough support under the major elements that would

 

of course only a couple of people knew who she really was at the end of ROTJ.
i know that all politicians have skeletons in their closet... but sheeesh.

would it be responsible of her to be a politician?

would it be responsible of her to NOT become a jedi? leaving Luke to re-build the order alone.
would it be responsible of Luke to not train her? particularly when Luke would know that not training her would risk her falling to the dark side.

if she is in fact into politics and not swinging a lightsaber in the ST.. then i'm down with that but for me it would need one hell of an explanation

 

Tid beat me to my answer. But to answer your question which I highlighted -- How would it be irresponsible for Leia to be a politician? I think people are joking when they suggest that Leia should use her Force powers (IE Jedi mind trick on other politicians.) In which case I see your point. Leia would be no better than Sidious/Palps.

BUT Leia is essentially the mother of the New Republic. She lost her whole planet, her family, her way of life and was a brave and noble leader of the Rebel Alliance. She is a superstar to those that would support the Rebels. She's a hero and a darling. She will use her popularity to win hearts and minds. I totally see her as some sort of politician and if the old rumors are true perhaps accept the title as Supreme Chancellor from an aged Mon Mothma all the while hiding her identity as a Skywalker.

 

Where I think Leia will be at in VII...I think she will have completed her Jedi training and be at least a Jedi Knight, including having her own lightsaber, but it won't be obvious to the audience at the start and it won't be widely known that she is a Jedi to the rest of the galaxy. She will use her Jedi abilities sparingly, we'll get hints through out the movie of her using the Force. At some point we'll finally see her pull out a lightsaber, but I don't think it will be in a duel with another lightsaber wielder, it will be to deflect blaster shots from storm troopers. I don't see any reason why Luke would not have started with her training shortly after RotJ. He was instructed by Yoda to pass on what he had learned and she immediately available for training, and he didn't have to do any sort of tests to determine if she had the ability to use the Force. I do think she will primarily be a politician though, assuming that some form of government has formed to replace or stand next to the Empire. She was raised as a politician, and it is what she does best. I don't believe she would be using the Force to persuade others politically though, it just does not seam like the Jedi way and does not fit the character of someone who stood so strongly against the Emperor. I believe she will be with Han, but this may be more wishful thinking than based on anything I have heard or read. I have no idea whether or not her identity as a Skywalker will be widely known or kept secret. I could see that going either way.

This is all speculation based on the movies and what I have found on this site, no inside sources.

 

Going off of what @Rogue 13 just said, we've assumed the "wampa" lightsaber is Christie's character's what if its Leia's? If she has trained as a Jedi she would need a lightsaber and considering her time on Hoth it could potentially make sense for her to have that one.

 

maybe i'm just not getting it..

if she's had Jedi training.. a jedi wouldn't then be concealing that fact and be involved in politics.
if she hasn't had jedi training.. wouldn't that be the riskiest thing ever? considering the family history.

excuse me if i'm being stupid - it's been a long day

 

Politics... gotta love em...

You have actually hit on a central theme that I think may be very important to this trilogy, and while we have talked around it, I don't think we have ever talked directly about it...

There is much talk (and I support the idea) that Luke may be the Warlord, and not be evil... that he may be doing what he believes to be in the best interest of the Jedi order, and the galaxy from the point of of view of the Jedi...

What, then, does Leia consider best? We have been talking about the possibility of the Jedi not wanting to be involved in politics anymore, and we have even skirted if the galaxy might not like the Jedi (or force users) much anymore... what if there is an element in the Senate that wants to go all x-men on this and force the force users to register?

Leia is cold-blooded... make no mistake about that. She is hard core and dedicated to the cause, and will absolutely do anything (including having her personal life take a backseat) for the cause.. would she hide her true nature? Absolutely...

Would it be necessary for her to train in the Force? Possibly not... had Luke died, she would have to have taken up the mantle... but with Vader and the Emperor dead, and Luke still alive, she may be more willing to allow him to go off and gather a new order while she focuses on her main goal... the rebuilding of the Senate...

Now, if Luke is missing and presumed dead, she may have to do that, but had she not been trained, she would be blind leading blind... the telling line in RotJ is where Luke says:

Everyone looked at that moment and knew Luke had to make it back, because Leia just really couldn't do it without him... but yes, if it were in the best interest, she would try...

So maybe Luke started setting up a new order, it certainly would have been his top priority, and Leia set to rebuilding the Senate... and then something happens, and Luke is presumed dead... Leia is trying to support the order, because that is what she does... she organizes. She might be hiding her connection for political reasons...

If I were a Sith, and I were there to make sure the destabilized factions never stabilize, I would certainly try to keep the Jedi out of the Senate business, and attack the Skywalker angle on Leia... hell, even if I were a political rival, I would attack Leia that way... it just makes simple political sense...

Once people have been yoked, there is the strong desire to keep being yoked... Look at America, they fought to get out from under the King, yet they wanted to make Washington a king... perhaps there is the desire among certain elements to make Leia Supreme Chancellor, at least until things get stable... Hitler consolidated power after a fire destroyed (I believe) the German equivalent of their congressional building... the Republic is doing good but not solid yet...

The Rebellion was run as a military operation, but it needs to make the transition to a political body... in the interim, would Leia take the mantle?

I promise to use these powers wisely, and lay them down as soon as this conflict is over...

It is a complicated issue

 

I totally expect Luke and Leia to disagree about something regarding the future of the galaxy and the role of the Jedi. It would echo Anakin and Padme not entirely agreeing about politics. I also think that Luke will deny his power whereas his father over-estimated himself. Anakin felt he was being held back; I think Luke will feel the strain and burden of responsibility and doubt himself. The saga is poetry..apparently.

 

thank you. it had somewhat soured an interesting thread.

 

Thank you!

 

There were reports from IMDB early on of a very unusual character, which didn't make sense... new information reveals details

Spoiler: The Buboicullaar connection

Three words... "secret cloning experiment"

 

The thing is, though, that at least in the now-defunct EU (IIRC), or maybe it was a fanfic I read, I don't recall - but it made sense - the general public has never been made aware either of Queen/Senator Amidala's secret marriage to the young Jedi (I guess they just had to wonder about that fake baby bump at the funeral), of her children's relationship to her (and in Leia's case, to both parents), and most importantly, of Anakin's alter ego as Darth Vader. Remember that Vader was never seen without the mask, and supposedly Anakin was simply listed in the Coruscant media as one of the Jedi slain in the Temple massacre. As far as anyone knows, unless it has been publicized (as it was in the EU) that Leia is by birth a Skywalker and, by extension a Vader, Princess Leia Organa is the daughter of Senator Bail Organa and his wife, the Princess something or other Organa.

If the new republic were in turmoil as she took on a more prominent leadership role, I can see Han and perhaps others like Mon Mothma (if she knew Vader's identity) urging Leia to keep her connection to Vader under wraps. Anakin was not publicly a bad guy, but Vader was the Emperor's chief enforcer, feared and loathed throughout the galaxy. However, because Vader's identity as Anakin Skywalker was not publicly known (perhaps the reason Vader waved his switched-off lightsaber in front of Luke's face and swore that name no longer had meaning to him), Luke was not implicated as being the son of Vader, and so neither was Leia, if she had decided to make her close association with the new Jedi Master public. Even if she revealed that she and Luke were the children of Senator Amidala and Jedi Anakin Skywalker, it still would not implicate them as being involved with Vader.

 

Guess she will be a piece bringer. But mybe now she is too old and cant hold the piece in the outer rim any longer. And booom war starts?

 

I don't know... Padme was the diplomat, Leia has only known war since her youth... while we can assume she was good at gathering support for the cause, we have no idea how she will be as a peaceful diplomat

 

Maybe she swapped to the "dark" side. Maybe she is the one that cant resist the dark side? So, can it be that SHE is one of the cyborgs?

 

Leia is about the same age as Hillary Clinton. Don't hate me, Republicans,, but this being Hollywood I wouldn't be surprised if Leia were fashioned somewhat in Hillary's image.

 

I think Leia would be the more likely to use "any means necessary"

They would be foolish not to look to her for how a politician acts, certainly... I am not a fan of Hilary, I still remember Vince Foster, etc etc... however, she is a consummate politician

 

I don't put as much stock in Leia as some have.
First, I HIGHLY doubt she'll have a light-saber or be a "secret Jedi".
That's a Sat morning cartoon plot for 8 year olds not a screenplay point in a $400,000,000.00 movie.
I do see Leia and Han split up but still having romantic feelings/love.
Time or a catastrophic event may make them drift apart.
Leia will be in charge & I highly believe she'll keep the Darth Vader/family stuff secret.
Leia, may, MAY be the "grave robber" too if she feels the item or object recovered is something she needs or can give to her son(in order to face Luke who may have turned). She wore a disguise in ROTJ so it's not a remote chance.
The "compelling incident" a massive accident or maybe a show of force by the bad guys with the Sith Homeworld planet weapon may make Leia worried that Luke might return & be a unstoppable force(thus the force awakens title).
Luke may get Leia's son or children with Han killed which really ticks her off.
Luke may kill Leia & Han's son(kids) because they were evil. This is what may be the "confronting scene" with Luke, Han & Driver's character in the 3rd act.
Recent rumors & set leaks say Harrison Ford has more scenes than Leia or Luke(Mark Hamill) so I think Leia will just be a political figure who in the climax turns against Luke claiming he's now a Sith or a major evil. But in truth he's gone rogue.